G2 is J/OWS, and G3 is W/OWR? So non OWE in J boards with OWR in Y? So the point is if flying J, better be OWE...

Was at PVG and saw they changed from having four queues (F, J, PEY, Y) to two queues (Group 1-3, Group 4-7).

Just why……

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bafabaeec.jpeg

This is a classic case of changing something for the sake of it. The Swire MT who came up with this stupid idea should be fired into the sun.

They hire the MT from BA? lol

I don't mind the concept of having two queues – the first being a premium queue based on higher travel class (first/business) and frequent flyer status (Diamond/Gold), and the second for lower travel classes / status-holders and perhaps also based on seating position) – this strikes me as a sensible way to manage queueing at the departure gate. A bunch of premium flyers stand here, the rest over there. That would be different to the order in which priority boarding calls are made: Group 1, then 2, then 3 etc?

This might make sense in theory, but from what I saw today: Once boarding starts everyone from group 1-3 just boards together. So SL/PEY could become essentially “group 1”. Not sure if it’s just an outport execution issue, as the staff looked confused too.

It’s a bit different in HKG where group 2-3 share one queue. When staff yelled group 2, most passengers were confused, with group 3 passengers not sure if they should step aside, and group 2 passengers not sure if they should overtake the one in front. Ends up group 2 passengers at the end of queue being overtaken because some passengers who were not in the queue just jumped to the front.

Don't the barding pass scanners at the gate automagically reject people who are not in the correct boarding group?

Hong Kong yes, but not sure about outports. For me srill, rejecting at the gate/scanner isn’t the best way to solve queuing issues compared to having separate queues in the past. It just moves the chaos from onboard to gate.

I'd agree. Seeing Qantas not long ago trial and implement group boarding here, it comes down to 'communication' – including passenger education – partnered with 'enforcement'. Making best use of gate layout and space, signage and announcements – including one at the front to clearly explain the process before it all starts – all play a part. Use of electric cattle prods optional.

Talking about the sheer group of elite pax at PVG...

We should reflect our feedback to CX as much as possible though my past experience sort of suggests CX has stopped responding to "Suggestions"...

”I have also forwarded your feedback to our Airport Services team to ensure better handling in the future, as we continue to aim for improvement.”

Haha.

With more additional boarding groups, it'll be easier for CX to implement bare fare basic economy with no carry on luggage...CX is re-joining the race to bottom on various fronts so I have to view different changes pessimistically

Quick Question: Do they kick you out of the line completely or do they manually scan you in (e.g. I'm group 3 trying to board during group 2 boarding)

In my experience, "Computer says No" means you don't board - you have to step aside and wait until it's your turn.

Ah...

1 is F, OWE
2 is J, OWS
3 is W, CX SL? But not ruby

Interesting, so the deval is OWR..