Downgrade / IDB priority
#16




Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 3,085
I was on an HKG-SHA last week (fyi, this is consistently the single most elite heavy flight in the whole CX by far). ~30 out of 39 in J alone were DMs so I was asked if I could move to the PVG flight (with Aria) which I declined. The check in staff at the podium acknowledged that they usually would not ask DMs but the system prompted them to ask every single pax for that day. I asked and there was no cash or mileage compensation (so I politely declined
)
Fyi, I didn't get my first meal choice as they only had 13 of each loaded. I tried to probe a bit with the crew as to how they maneuvered around the cabin (as I was sitting up front but they came to me quite late), but they just shrugged it off and told me 'we are full today' blabla. oh well
)Fyi, I didn't get my first meal choice as they only had 13 of each loaded. I tried to probe a bit with the crew as to how they maneuvered around the cabin (as I was sitting up front but they came to me quite late), but they just shrugged it off and told me 'we are full today' blabla. oh well
#17
Moderator: Cathay Pacific




Join Date: Jan 2024
Programs: CX DM-
Posts: 1,302
Im curious to hear why SHA seems more DM heavy. Im not saying PVG isnt. Ive seen the queues on a Monday/ Tuesday morning.
The amounts of flights to PVG just gives me more flexibility. Its easier to do a day return there as well.
The amounts of flights to PVG just gives me more flexibility. Its easier to do a day return there as well.
#18


Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 8,239
And I usually stay in Puxi, unless some exceptional reason calls me to Pudong.
so its just about speed.
I almost always try for the SHA flights. Unfortunately since I usually book travel close in, it is sometimes totally zeroed out in J and I end up from PVG. But SHa is my preference, especially for flying TO Shanghai. (CXs 60 minute shenanigan I think has made PVG more attractive to me on departure since I can pick up my BPs with the desk thats always open there at PVG, whereas Id be worried the agents would just leave at SHa? Is this true?)
I dont mind PVG, apec helps big time. But if given choice I take SHA. Im in Shanghai at least every 6 weeks.
#19




Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: SHA/HKG
Programs: CX DM/Hyatt Lifetime Glob
Posts: 29
Proximity to what I need to do, in my case. Biggest point: office is 25-40 mins max from SHA. PVG is 45 minutes if Im lucky and realistically 55-75. (Were based in Puxi.) Smaller points: walk from jetbridge to immigration to car is in average faster at SHA than PVG.
And I usually stay in Puxi, unless some exceptional reason calls me to Pudong.
so its just about speed.
I almost always try for the SHA flights. Unfortunately since I usually book travel close in, it is sometimes totally zeroed out in J and I end up from PVG. But SHa is my preference, especially for flying TO Shanghai. (CXs 60 minute shenanigan I think has made PVG more attractive to me on departure since I can pick up my BPs with the desk thats always open there at PVG, whereas Id be worried the agents would just leave at SHa? Is this true?)
I dont mind PVG, apec helps big time. But if given choice I take SHA. Im in Shanghai at least every 6 weeks.
And I usually stay in Puxi, unless some exceptional reason calls me to Pudong.
so its just about speed.
I almost always try for the SHA flights. Unfortunately since I usually book travel close in, it is sometimes totally zeroed out in J and I end up from PVG. But SHa is my preference, especially for flying TO Shanghai. (CXs 60 minute shenanigan I think has made PVG more attractive to me on departure since I can pick up my BPs with the desk thats always open there at PVG, whereas Id be worried the agents would just leave at SHa? Is this true?)
I dont mind PVG, apec helps big time. But if given choice I take SHA. Im in Shanghai at least every 6 weeks.
And dont worry they will leave one or two staff to deal with those who miss the flight.
#20


Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,217
Proximity to what I need to do, in my case. Biggest point: office is 25-40 mins max from SHA. PVG is 45 minutes if Im lucky and realistically 55-75. (Were based in Puxi.) Smaller points: walk from jetbridge to immigration to car is in average faster at SHA than PVG.
And I usually stay in Puxi, unless some exceptional reason calls me to Pudong.
so its just about speed.
I almost always try for the SHA flights. Unfortunately since I usually book travel close in, it is sometimes totally zeroed out in J and I end up from PVG. But SHa is my preference, especially for flying TO Shanghai. (CXs 60 minute shenanigan I think has made PVG more attractive to me on departure since I can pick up my BPs with the desk thats always open there at PVG, whereas Id be worried the agents would just leave at SHa? Is this true?)
I dont mind PVG, apec helps big time. But if given choice I take SHA. Im in Shanghai at least every 6 weeks.
And I usually stay in Puxi, unless some exceptional reason calls me to Pudong.
so its just about speed.
I almost always try for the SHA flights. Unfortunately since I usually book travel close in, it is sometimes totally zeroed out in J and I end up from PVG. But SHa is my preference, especially for flying TO Shanghai. (CXs 60 minute shenanigan I think has made PVG more attractive to me on departure since I can pick up my BPs with the desk thats always open there at PVG, whereas Id be worried the agents would just leave at SHa? Is this true?)
I dont mind PVG, apec helps big time. But if given choice I take SHA. Im in Shanghai at least every 6 weeks.
This departure would give me a full day in Shanghai, and I can even leave for the airport after an early dinner. Interested to know of this flight's departure and arrival punctuality.
#21
Moderator: Cathay Pacific




Join Date: Jan 2024
Programs: CX DM-
Posts: 1,302
Proximity to what I need to do, in my case. Biggest point: office is 25-40 mins max from SHA. PVG is 45 minutes if Im lucky and realistically 55-75. (Were based in Puxi.) Smaller points: walk from jetbridge to immigration to car is in average faster at SHA than PVG.
And I usually stay in Puxi, unless some exceptional reason calls me to Pudong.
so its just about speed.
I almost always try for the SHA flights. Unfortunately since I usually book travel close in, it is sometimes totally zeroed out in J and I end up from PVG. But SHa is my preference, especially for flying TO Shanghai. (CXs 60 minute shenanigan I think has made PVG more attractive to me on departure since I can pick up my BPs with the desk thats always open there at PVG, whereas Id be worried the agents would just leave at SHa? Is this true?)
I dont mind PVG, apec helps big time. But if given choice I take SHA. Im in Shanghai at least every 6 weeks.
And I usually stay in Puxi, unless some exceptional reason calls me to Pudong.
so its just about speed.
I almost always try for the SHA flights. Unfortunately since I usually book travel close in, it is sometimes totally zeroed out in J and I end up from PVG. But SHa is my preference, especially for flying TO Shanghai. (CXs 60 minute shenanigan I think has made PVG more attractive to me on departure since I can pick up my BPs with the desk thats always open there at PVG, whereas Id be worried the agents would just leave at SHa? Is this true?)
I dont mind PVG, apec helps big time. But if given choice I take SHA. Im in Shanghai at least every 6 weeks.
Imagine you're gold in J to SHA and being IDB/downgrade because everyone else is DM or above
#22


Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 722
the guy who used to run mpc told me in person they werent sold, solely for ID pax, off duty crew etc, def not the likes of us cash paying cattle. Timing was pre COVID, maybe 2018 or 2019. I cant speak for recently. Or maybe that wasnt true, or we all had one too many drinks? Im not sure id mix that up, but who knows. I dont have really any way to verify except call some friends at swire which Im not plalning on doing
. What I can say without question is my last two SIN sectors 11DG were full, but all 4x were industry people. I explicitly asked on one flight (cx staff) and actually knew a guy traveling on the other, while other seat was his colleague it turned out. Not normal revenue pax.
Those seats are really a bad look for cx if theyre actually filling with unsuspecting cash pax. Same with one of the seats on 77K, the one in back mini cabin D side near the lav. Even regionally, Id be quite displeased. Never gotten them and always had this (maybe false???) idea in my head that CX didnt actually sell them.
. What I can say without question is my last two SIN sectors 11DG were full, but all 4x were industry people. I explicitly asked on one flight (cx staff) and actually knew a guy traveling on the other, while other seat was his colleague it turned out. Not normal revenue pax.Those seats are really a bad look for cx if theyre actually filling with unsuspecting cash pax. Same with one of the seats on 77K, the one in back mini cabin D side near the lav. Even regionally, Id be quite displeased. Never gotten them and always had this (maybe false???) idea in my head that CX didnt actually sell them.
#23


Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 722
Just out of curiosity, have you (or anyone) taken the CX 327 SHA-HKG service, which is available on M and Th 22:30 - 01:30+1?
This departure would give me a full day in Shanghai, and I can even leave for the airport after an early dinner. Interested to know of this flight's departure and arrival punctuality.
This departure would give me a full day in Shanghai, and I can even leave for the airport after an early dinner. Interested to know of this flight's departure and arrival punctuality.
#24


Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 722
I was on an HKG-SHA last week (fyi, this is consistently the single most elite heavy flight in the whole CX by far). ~30 out of 39 in J alone were DMs so I was asked if I could move to the PVG flight (with Aria) which I declined. The check in staff at the podium acknowledged that they usually would not ask DMs but the system prompted them to ask every single pax for that day. I asked and there was no cash or mileage compensation (so I politely declined
)
Fyi, I didn't get my first meal choice as they only had 13 of each loaded. I tried to probe a bit with the crew as to how they maneuvered around the cabin (as I was sitting up front but they came to me quite late), but they just shrugged it off and told me 'we are full today' blabla. oh well
)Fyi, I didn't get my first meal choice as they only had 13 of each loaded. I tried to probe a bit with the crew as to how they maneuvered around the cabin (as I was sitting up front but they came to me quite late), but they just shrugged it off and told me 'we are full today' blabla. oh well
I guess DM+ got their orders first, they remaining DM based on contributions again? Quite surprised to know their ipad can show that though.
Last edited by VE105; Nov 24, 2024 at 12:05 pm
#25
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Join Date: Jan 2024
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#26


Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,217
I am tempted to try the CX 327 next month.
#27


Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 8,239
Just out of curiosity, have you (or anyone) taken the CX 327 SHA-HKG service, which is available on M and Th 22:30 - 01:30+1?
This departure would give me a full day in Shanghai, and I can even leave for the airport after an early dinner. Interested to know of this flight's departure and arrival punctuality.
This departure would give me a full day in Shanghai, and I can even leave for the airport after an early dinner. Interested to know of this flight's departure and arrival punctuality.
#28
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Join Date: May 2009
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#29


Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 722
#30


Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 722
At least they aren't like some US/Europe airlines that don't load enough meals. You'd be quite surprised what they can see on that iPad of doom. A crew member once told me they gather a lot of data to identify their key customers. For example, if you buy a lot of duty-free on board, the crew might come around to hard-sell you.
I was told by an ISM they knew I'm a "good" pax due to always give good marks in survey
so of course they'd know if you are a "demanding" pax!

