New regional J on A330 will be with flat beds
Mar 12, 2024, 10:26 pm
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New regional J on A330 will be with flat beds
Updated: CEO Ronald Lam said ALL regional A330 would be equipped with flat bed business class.
Good news here: In the financial report released by CX this afternoon, CX revealed that the new J installed on A330 starting from 2026 will be with flat beds.
Good news here: In the financial report released by CX this afternoon, CX revealed that the new J installed on A330 starting from 2026 will be with flat beds.
Last edited by Reply1984; Mar 13, 2024 at 12:18 am
Mar 12, 2024, 10:30 pm
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Mar 12, 2024, 11:27 pm
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Mar 13, 2024, 12:04 am
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Personally I think this is the biggest highlight today. Glad to know CX is keeping pace with counterparts in the region to offer short haul business class, especially when their short haul can be over 2000 miles.
Mar 13, 2024, 12:16 am
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Hopefully the A321s eventually stopped getting used on the high volume routes.
I wonder though if it will be like SQs regional A350 or their 737s
Also anyone know or have any insight in what the new First class is?
Mar 13, 2024, 2:40 am
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I am cautiously optimistic but I note that it does not specifically say, "All direct aisle access lie flat seats"!
But as of this point, I can't imagine anyone going back to lie flat seats without direct aisle access though. However, it is still not specifically said it that way. I am a bit cautious.
Honestly I am okay with SQ's current regional business class. If CX just offers an improved version of it, I will be willing to pay for it.
As of this point, I am not willing to pay for the current A321Neo business class product, which is even worse than those A330/Boeing 777-300 regional business class seats. I will fly economy if needs to be. Honestly after flying CX A321neo economy class two weeks ago, I am fine with an extra legroom seat with Hong Kong Express. The whole experience with CX's A321Neo is just bad and my flight was not even 30% full. I felt bad for the crews who have to work on these planes. I can imagine how bad it is if the flights are 100% full.
Carfield
But as of this point, I can't imagine anyone going back to lie flat seats without direct aisle access though. However, it is still not specifically said it that way. I am a bit cautious.
Honestly I am okay with SQ's current regional business class. If CX just offers an improved version of it, I will be willing to pay for it.
As of this point, I am not willing to pay for the current A321Neo business class product, which is even worse than those A330/Boeing 777-300 regional business class seats. I will fly economy if needs to be. Honestly after flying CX A321neo economy class two weeks ago, I am fine with an extra legroom seat with Hong Kong Express. The whole experience with CX's A321Neo is just bad and my flight was not even 30% full. I felt bad for the crews who have to work on these planes. I can imagine how bad it is if the flights are 100% full.
Carfield
Last edited by Carfield; Mar 13, 2024 at 2:48 am
Mar 13, 2024, 2:58 am
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I am cautiously optimistic but I note that it does not specifically say, "All direct aisle access lie flat seats"!
But as of this point, I can't imagine anyone going back to lie flat seats without direct aisle access though. However, it is still not specifically said it that way. I am a bit cautious.
Honestly I am okay with SQ's current regional business class. If CX just offers an improved version of it, I will be willing to pay for it.
As of this point, I am not willing to pay for the current A321Neo business class product, which is even worse than those A330/Boeing 777-300 regional business class seats. I will fly economy if needs to be. Honestly after flying CX A321neo economy class two weeks ago, I am fine with an extra legroom seat with Hong Kong Express. The whole experience with CX's A321Neo is just bad and my flight was not even 30% full. I felt bad for the crews who have to work on these planes. I can imagine how bad it is if the flights are 100% full.
Carfield
But as of this point, I can't imagine anyone going back to lie flat seats without direct aisle access though. However, it is still not specifically said it that way. I am a bit cautious.
Honestly I am okay with SQ's current regional business class. If CX just offers an improved version of it, I will be willing to pay for it.
As of this point, I am not willing to pay for the current A321Neo business class product, which is even worse than those A330/Boeing 777-300 regional business class seats. I will fly economy if needs to be. Honestly after flying CX A321neo economy class two weeks ago, I am fine with an extra legroom seat with Hong Kong Express. The whole experience with CX's A321Neo is just bad and my flight was not even 30% full. I felt bad for the crews who have to work on these planes. I can imagine how bad it is if the flights are 100% full.
Carfield
30 inch pitch on the A321neo is terrible.
HK Express extra legroom is far more logical.
Air NZ and QF basically do this where their regional flights are now LCC level.
Mar 13, 2024, 3:26 am
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[QUOTE=Carfield;36075913
As of this point, I am not willing to pay for the current A321Neo business class product, which is even worse than those A330/Boeing 777-300 regional business class seats. I will fly economy if needs to be. Honestly after flying CX A321neo economy class two weeks ago, I am fine with an extra legroom seat with Hong Kong Express. The whole experience with CX's A321Neo is just bad and my flight was not even 30% full. I felt bad for the crews who have to work on these planes. I can imagine how bad it is if the flights are 100% full.
Carfield[/QUOTE]
I recently flew to PNH in business class in an A321. Every seat was full. Never again. The business class is premium economy, absolutely no better than that. I do not understand how Cathay risks its reputation with such an offering. It is regularly used for the first flight to Manila, a flight that is normally filled with passengers connecting from long haul flights. Many have changed many times zones and are still craving sleep. Imagine their shock and reaction when they transfer from a comfortable Cirrus seat to one of these horrors. Early February I took the TG flight from BKK to MNL which also departs very early and has many connecting passengers. TG used an A350 with reasonable beds, many of which were used. Anyone being aware of the difference between the two levels of offering would never choose Cathay if coming from Europe or other competing departure point such as ME or India.
The flight back to HKG from MNL, CX906, used to be very popular with folk going on to NA, plus other ports in SE Asia.. The front end was usually pretty full. Again the A321 must be recking Cathay's reputation with them. Buy them by the dozen if they wish but please restrict their use to routes with light loads. Perhaps it is due to availability of qualified pilots that causes them to be assigned to heavy load routes. If so I hope that they train, train, train the guys and gals to drive larger machines quickly.
As of this point, I am not willing to pay for the current A321Neo business class product, which is even worse than those A330/Boeing 777-300 regional business class seats. I will fly economy if needs to be. Honestly after flying CX A321neo economy class two weeks ago, I am fine with an extra legroom seat with Hong Kong Express. The whole experience with CX's A321Neo is just bad and my flight was not even 30% full. I felt bad for the crews who have to work on these planes. I can imagine how bad it is if the flights are 100% full.
Carfield[/QUOTE]
I recently flew to PNH in business class in an A321. Every seat was full. Never again. The business class is premium economy, absolutely no better than that. I do not understand how Cathay risks its reputation with such an offering. It is regularly used for the first flight to Manila, a flight that is normally filled with passengers connecting from long haul flights. Many have changed many times zones and are still craving sleep. Imagine their shock and reaction when they transfer from a comfortable Cirrus seat to one of these horrors. Early February I took the TG flight from BKK to MNL which also departs very early and has many connecting passengers. TG used an A350 with reasonable beds, many of which were used. Anyone being aware of the difference between the two levels of offering would never choose Cathay if coming from Europe or other competing departure point such as ME or India.
The flight back to HKG from MNL, CX906, used to be very popular with folk going on to NA, plus other ports in SE Asia.. The front end was usually pretty full. Again the A321 must be recking Cathay's reputation with them. Buy them by the dozen if they wish but please restrict their use to routes with light loads. Perhaps it is due to availability of qualified pilots that causes them to be assigned to heavy load routes. If so I hope that they train, train, train the guys and gals to drive larger machines quickly.
Mar 13, 2024, 6:03 am
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I am cautiously optimistic but I note that it does not specifically say, "All direct aisle access lie flat seats"!
But as of this point, I can't imagine anyone going back to lie flat seats without direct aisle access though. However, it is still not specifically said it that way. I am a bit cautious.
Carfield
But as of this point, I can't imagine anyone going back to lie flat seats without direct aisle access though. However, it is still not specifically said it that way. I am a bit cautious.
Carfield