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Old Feb 23, 2024, 3:15 am
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Air China looking to purchase Cathay

https://www.xm.com/research/markets/allNews/reuters/air-china-to-consult-advisers-for-raising-cathay-pacific-stake-bloomberg-reports-53772848

Perhaps this is why Swire has been so conservative and gotten rid off overseas staff.
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 3:24 am
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I think this has been inevitable for some time, the only question is when. The CPC/Winnie won't allow HK's flagship companies to be owned/run by gweilos. HSBC's Greater China operations will go the same way at some point.
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 5:03 am
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Again it is Danny…
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 6:28 am
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Then change name to China pacific ?
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 1:32 pm
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Bloomberg: Air China potentially merging with Cathay Pacific. CX leaving Oneworld?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...cathay-pacific

Air China Ltd. has been sounding out advisers in recent months on the possible merits of raising its nearly 30% stake in Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd., according to people familiar with matter, rekindling a long-running idea as the 77-year-old Hong Kong carrier rebounds from the pandemic.

Air China suffered a total loss of about 70 billion yuan ($9.7 billion) in the three years through 2022 and is set for a deficit of as much as 1.3 billion yuan for 2023. Cathay, meanwhile, expects net income of at least HK$8.6 billion ($1.1 billion) for last year, which would be the highest since 2010. The airline and its HK Express arm flew 2 million passengers in January, an average of more than 70,000 a day. In the depths of Covid, its daily traffic was just a few hundred.
Should CA proceed with gaining majority control of CX, will CX, as a founding member of Oneworld, join *A? Will that mean I can enter Pier F as a *G? 👀
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So sad to see a once exemplary airline collapse so much
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 3:35 pm
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An acquisition would almost surely take CX out of OW and into *A. A sad next chapter for a once-great aviation brand.
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 3:54 pm
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Mods, please change the thread title

The Bloomberg report does not say Air China is looking to purchase Cathay. Not at all. Please read carefully.

Air China is only looking to increase its stake, relative to Swire Pacific, to have control. Very different
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by BearX220
An acquisition would almost surely take CX out of OW and into *A. A sad next chapter for a once-great aviation brand.
Perhaps that would open the door to Starlux joining oneworld.
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by SinoBritAsia
The Bloomberg report does not say Air China is looking to purchase Cathay. Not at all. Please read carefully.

Air China is only looking to increase its stake, relative to Swire Pacific, to have control. Very different
pretty sure if Air china wants to control more than 30% they have to make a takeover bid
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by BearX220
An acquisition would almost surely take CX out of OW and into *A. A sad next chapter for a once-great aviation brand.
It would be a terrible development indeed! It would be more awesome if CA merges with CX and CA joins OW. OW will be so weird without CX. Furthermore, is the SQ lounge at HKG even necessary if CX joins *A?

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Old Feb 23, 2024, 6:05 pm
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OW will be so weird without CX.
It would definitely leave a huge gap in transpacific flights for oneworld… with only JL’s limited frequencies (with connections made even more difficult with the HND/NRT split) + AA’s anemic Asian coverage. Whereas Star would have UA, AC, NH, CA, CX, BR and SQ.
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 6:44 pm
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It would definitely leave a huge gap in transpacific flights for oneworld… with only JL’s limited frequencies (with connections made even more difficult with the HND/NRT split) + AA’s anemic Asian coverage. Whereas Star would have UA, AC, NH, CA, CX, BR and SQ.
The whole HND/NRT split never made much sense to me. I wish Tokyo would just have one gigantic airport with cheap and fast access to central Tokyo. I don't think JL can replace CX as well.
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 6:45 pm
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Unless regulations have changed recently, there is a reason why Air China owns a 29.99% stake in Cathay Pacific instead of 30% - at 30%, Air China will have to make a mandatory takeover offer, as per Hong Kong rules.

https://www.charltonslaw.com/hong-ko...s%20(Rule%2026).

From 2009: "By increasing its holding to 29.99 percent, Air China bolstered its position to just a hair's breadth below the 30 percent threshold that would trigger a mandatory takeover offer, while also doubling its presence on the Cathay board to four members."

Source: https://thehimalayantimes.com/busine...cific-takeover
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Old Feb 23, 2024, 7:00 pm
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Then change name to China pacific ?
That's the name of CX's catering company in Taiwan!
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