Premium Economy to India
Feb 6, 2024, 3:30 am
#16
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Cathay Pacific, Air Astana
Posts: 102
Pre-Covid I was in and out of India a fair bit (DEL, MAA, BOM). And whilst not having PEY flying to India might not be the end of the world, on the flights back to HKG (typically overnight), PEY made one hell of a difference.
Really sad if it has been dropped - even though India's not on my travel radar these days (when visiting India or rather attempting to return to HKG from India would have required 21 nights in BKK before 21 nights in a hotel in HKG, clients in India baulked at the expense of this and I was dropped from my Indian projects)
Really sad if it has been dropped - even though India's not on my travel radar these days (when visiting India or rather attempting to return to HKG from India would have required 21 nights in BKK before 21 nights in a hotel in HKG, clients in India baulked at the expense of this and I was dropped from my Indian projects)
Mar 1, 2024, 12:43 am
#18
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
Still no movement on this and the changes are scheduled to come into place this month. Are you both still as confident?
Mar 2, 2024, 1:31 am
#19
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 134
In my opinion, lie-flat business class can be overkill for 2-3 hour short-haul flights, whereas PE is good value. Maybe CX thinks PE is eating into short-haul demand for J seats and has decided to drop PE?
"Cathay’s first foray into premium economy arrived on the flagship Boeing 777 in 2012, and shortly made its way onto the regional Airbus A330 fleet – although there are rumours of this being pared back in a sweeping reconfiguration of the A330s."
"Cathay’s first foray into premium economy arrived on the flagship Boeing 777 in 2012, and shortly made its way onto the regional Airbus A330 fleet – although there are rumours of this being pared back in a sweeping reconfiguration of the A330s."
Mar 2, 2024, 2:12 am
#20
Join Date: Feb 2024
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: CX GO, CA GO
Posts: 123
Third of all and most importantly, most reviewers and CX frequent fliers are all complimenting CX lately about it getting back on track with hugely improved soft product (hard product was always great). The food is perfect, seat is perfect maybe the crew can be better but let time fix that. CX is still a top 5 airline in my mind for its consistency of both soft and hard products.
Mar 2, 2024, 2:16 am
#21
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 134
don't be so pessimistic... first of all all these 333s should be placeholders. Second of all these 333s ain't terrible either.
Third of all and most importantly, most reviewers and CX frequent fliers are all complimenting CX lately about it getting back on track with hugely improved soft product (hard product was always great). The food is perfect, seat is perfect maybe the crew can be better but let time fix that. CX is still a top 5 airline in my mind for its consistency of both soft and hard products.
Third of all and most importantly, most reviewers and CX frequent fliers are all complimenting CX lately about it getting back on track with hugely improved soft product (hard product was always great). The food is perfect, seat is perfect maybe the crew can be better but let time fix that. CX is still a top 5 airline in my mind for its consistency of both soft and hard products.
Mar 2, 2024, 2:17 am
#22
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
Mar 2, 2024, 2:21 am
#23
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
Mar 2, 2024, 2:27 am
#25
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
BOM/DEL J is usually always relatively full, while it’s often less busy in Y at the back.
Mar 2, 2024, 3:34 am
#28
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 134
All the more reason to cut PE and increase J capacity.
J being full doesn’t preclude the possibility of PE cannibalising J demand. PE and J might function as substitute goods on short haul routes - especially on routes that are served by recliners.
J being full doesn’t preclude the possibility of PE cannibalising J demand. PE and J might function as substitute goods on short haul routes - especially on routes that are served by recliners.
Mar 2, 2024, 3:39 am
#29
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Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Diamond (OW Emerald), former SQ Krisflyer Gold
Posts: 2,527
2) Changing from 77K to 33K actually results in a reduction in premium capacity
There must be some reason, but based on everything I've seen about India flights I am very sure that PE cannibalising J demand has nothing to do with it.
Mar 2, 2024, 3:47 am
#30
Join Date: Dec 2023
Posts: 134
1) India is not shorthaul - very much in the mid range.
2) Changing from 77K to 33K actually results in a reduction in premium capacity
There must be some reason, but based on everything I've seen about India flights I am very sure that PE cannibalising J demand has nothing to do with it.
2) Changing from 77K to 33K actually results in a reduction in premium capacity
There must be some reason, but based on everything I've seen about India flights I am very sure that PE cannibalising J demand has nothing to do with it.