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Short hair Francis Dec 13, 2020 1:07 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32882473)
That seat has at least as much recline as JL Class J, but wider.

Something about the lumbar support of the existing slide forward CX regional J doesn't work for me.

Wider is more dictated by Cabin Width then anything else.

Problem is how much pitch would you need to use the QF Domestic J seat on a CX 32Q?
Not 37-39" I bloody hope. :mad:

You can't ask for an extra pillow to fix the lumbar support?
My beef with the current CX Regional J is the Ankle part is dangled way too high and sometime kills Calf blood circulation :(

clubeurope Dec 13, 2020 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by VE105 (Post 32882320)
Those seats seem decent enough for the short flights these A321 will be operating.

A short hop to KHH or MNL is fine, but definitely not a flight to KTM or a redeye to NRT.

QF flies domestically a 4-5 hour distance with flatbeds in A330s, and many american carriers also offer transcon flat-beds, from DL to B6. Seems sad for an airline often regarded by the general public to be amongst the world’s best to offer such a meagre product.

percysmith Dec 13, 2020 6:30 pm


Originally Posted by Short hair Francis (Post 32883421)
You can't ask for an extra pillow to fix the lumbar support?

Perhaps too much of it. It's like sleeping on a hard slide.

SKRan Dec 29, 2020 3:07 am

I really like ZH's J product on narrowbodies. It's basically the same domestic/regional J seat for all the Chinese carriers, but ZH installed 8 in the space of 12 so everyone has a giant pitch.

SLGO Dec 29, 2020 4:17 am

The newly release of EK PE seats does overshine the new CX regional J. Perhaps regional seats and long haul seats are just not directly comparable.

clubeurope Dec 29, 2020 5:17 am


Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 32920580)
The newly release of EK PE seats does overshine the new CX regional J. Perhaps regional seats and long haul seats are just not directly comparable.

I think EK's PEY seats look very kitsch, along with first and business. Definitely prefer CX's subdued colours... though having said that do still wish that CX had went with a non-shell seat given that they chose to keep recliners instead of installing flat-beds.

fakecd Dec 29, 2020 5:30 am

EK PEY / CX A350 PEY >>>CX "new" regional J
based on stats and photo of hardware....that say a lot about CX

SKRan Dec 29, 2020 6:36 am


Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 32920580)
The newly release of EK PE seats does overshine the new CX regional J. Perhaps regional seats and long haul seats are just not directly comparable.

Personally - for a regional flight, being able to recline into a good position and not having a seat back reclined onto my face matters. Many lie-flat products are not so good when in the recliner position - for example - the SQ J

sxc Dec 29, 2020 7:12 am


Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 32920580)
The newly release of EK PE seats does overshine the new CX regional J. Perhaps regional seats and long haul seats are just not directly comparable.

I'm quite certain I am going to prefer sitting in the new CX Regional J seats to the EK Premium Economy seats.

SLGO Dec 29, 2020 8:44 am


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 32920859)
I'm quite certain I am going to prefer sitting in the new CX Regional J seats to the EK Premium Economy seats.

Can’t say you’re wrong given it’s supposed to be a business class product. ;) I’d however say that adding the price factor in, especially the huge premium ex-HKG, the whole story may change. (I know it’s not fair to compare the price at home port vs outport)

ultrawin Dec 30, 2020 11:50 am

In the past few years, Vivian Lo said it multiple times that there won't be a lie flat regional J seats, so this is not surprising. You need to understand Cathay is not what is used to be (even before Covid). It is still a great airline but it is not industry-leading anymore.

dkc192 Jan 29, 2021 11:37 am

This looks like it could've been an interesting option for CX, had it been on the market when they were making their selection...

https://onemileatatime.com/factoryde...ss-class-seat/

JClasstraveller Jan 30, 2021 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by clubeurope (Post 32883425)
A short hop to KHH or MNL is fine, but definitely not a flight to KTM or a redeye to NRT.

QF flies domestically a 4-5 hour distance with flatbeds in A330s, and many american carriers also offer transcon flat-beds, from DL to B6. Seems sad for an airline often regarded by the general public to be amongst the world’s best to offer such a meagre product.

QF, even pre Covid, was utilising A330s on transcon runs less than they were. They were running a lot of 73H’s as VA had started reducing their 332 transcon flying (and are now gone).

With VA 332’s gone, QF likely to need 789’s to fly long haul routes some of which was previously 380, their 330s will be important flying to Asia when travel re opens. Consequently, fewer 330s required transcon.

I’d probably take the proposed J over QF 73H domestic J - that really was just the international PE seat. Large recline is just not conducive to laptop work - crushed screens are just too commonplace.

SLGO Feb 1, 2021 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by dkc192 (Post 33003043)
This looks like it could've been an interesting option for CX, had it been on the market when they were making their selection...

https://onemileatatime.com/factoryde...ss-class-seat/

This is an interesting regional J product. But as the author suggested, it may not be attractive enough just to have direct aisle access for shorter / daytime flights.

clubeurope Feb 2, 2021 8:51 am


Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 33010285)
This is an interesting regional J product. But as the author suggested, it may not be attractive enough just to have direct aisle access for shorter / daytime flights.

It's probably better than the one they installed though. Having said that, it might be a very interesting choice for a next-gen PEY seat if CX chooses to sticks with being highly premium


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