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cx4ever Dec 12, 2020 5:54 am

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the SQ 7M8s have the Vantage seats? Which means there are alternating rows of 2-2 and 1-1. The 1-1 throne seats therefore have 4x more table/storage space compared to the 2-2 seats. I don't like the product inconsistency and would feel annoyed paying the same price if I could only get one of the 2-2 seats.

Don't really like this new color scheme, but it matches the previous KA F (cirrus) color scheme on the A330s. Looks more comfortable than the previous generation, will have to try it to know for sure.

clubeurope Dec 12, 2020 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32880407)
Maybe I took too many regional J as redeye flights, but I would have killed for some real recline akin to Qantas domestic J or even JAL Class J over this. Not to be.

SriLankan’s A320 recliners has possibly got to have one of the best reclines (and legroom) I’ve ever seen. Sure this seat looks snazzy and all, but it really gives away the comfort. Unless CX commits on not flying these on longer regionals (which I doubt), it’s not much of an improvement :(

percysmith Dec 12, 2020 6:55 pm


Originally Posted by clubeurope (Post 32881732)
SriLankan’s A320 recliners has possibly got to have one of the best reclines (and legroom) I’ve ever seen. Sure this seat looks snazzy and all, but it really gives away the comfort. Unless CX commits on not flying these on longer regionals (which I doubt), it’s not much of an improvement :(

This one https://milelion.com/2019/01/16/circ...mb-doh-review/ ?

https://milelion.com/wp-content/uplo...an-A320-44.jpg

clubeurope Dec 12, 2020 7:18 pm

this one, although that also looks pretty substantial


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...43ac5f2d9.jpeg
https://www.navjot-singh.com/airline...ss-airbus-a321

had this seat on a short red-eye to Seychelles and it was the best sleep i’ve had on a recliner

percysmith Dec 12, 2020 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by clubeurope (Post 32881899)
this one, although that also looks pretty substantial


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...43ac5f2d9.jpeg
https://www.navjot-singh.com/airline...ss-airbus-a321

had this seat on a short red-eye to Seychelles and it was the best sleep i’ve had on a recliner

Similar to Qantas domestic J then:

[photo deleted, wrong photo posted]

clubeurope Dec 12, 2020 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32881923)

I was under the impression that QF domestic J has a much worse legroom. Though having said that, it appears that the picture above is an A380 PEY seat :/

percysmith Dec 12, 2020 7:56 pm

Oh! My bad

I am really struggling to find a reclined photo of Qantas Domestic J. I don't think I even have one myself.
This is the closest I can get. I do see where you're coming from about legroom but I am more of a width guy than a tall guy https://www.mapworld.com.au/blogs/ne...s-class-review

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00..._2048x2048.jpg

djsflynn Dec 12, 2020 11:39 pm


Originally Posted by Short hair Francis (Post 32880166)
Good Point fakecd, they couldn't have use the BE Diamond Seat like the SQ 7M8s?

Not the Diamond: forthcoming Singapore Airlines (nee SilkAir) Boeing 787 MAX jets will use Thompson Aero's Vantage. Still lie-flat but the alternating 2-2 / 1-1 layout means it's not direct aisle access for everyone.

FYI: Vantage single-aisle LOPA
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4ca7340370.jpg

Render of Vantage cabin (Aer Lingus)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64c69ed393.jpg

Short hair Francis Dec 12, 2020 11:48 pm


Originally Posted by clubeurope (Post 32880293)
Singapore's installing Diamonds on their 737 max? I'm surprised they didn't go for the Vantage or that new narrow body direct aisle access seat


Originally Posted by cx4ever (Post 32880558)
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the SQ 7M8s have the Vantage seats? Which means there are alternating rows of 2-2 and 1-1. The 1-1 throne seats therefore have 4x more table/storage space compared to the 2-2 seats. I don't like the product inconsistency and would feel annoyed paying the same price if I could only get one of the 2-2 seats.

Don't really like this new color scheme, but it matches the previous KA F (cirrus) color scheme on the A330s. Looks more comfortable than the previous generation, will have to try it to know for sure.


Originally Posted by djsflynn (Post 32882264)
Not the Diamond: forthcoming Singapore Airlines (nee SilkAir) Boeing 787 MAX jets will use Thompson Aero's Vantage. Still lie-flat but the alternating 2-2 / 1-1 layout means it's not direct aisle access for everyone.

FYI: Vantage single-aisle LOPA
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4ca7340370.jpg

Render of Vantage cabin (Aer Lingus)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...64c69ed393.jpg



MY BAD:(
CM 7M8s is using the BE Diamond, not the SQ ones.

Guess the point is the same, why didn't they at least use the BE Diamonds like the AA 321T Business :mad::mad::mad:
Too Bloody cheap on the Seat Pitch I guess :o

Short hair Francis Dec 13, 2020 12:05 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32880407)
Maybe I took too many regional J as redeye flights, but I would have killed for some real recline akin to Qantas domestic J or even JAL Class J over this. Not to be.

percysmith :eek:, you didn't get Brain Damage from all of those Red-Eyes to KIX ;)

QF Domestic J has little if any recline.
JL Class J does, but is a WAY tighter product than the current CX Short Haul J.



Originally Posted by clubeurope (Post 32881732)
SriLankan’s A320 recliners has possibly got to have one of the best reclines (and legroom) I’ve ever seen. Sure this seat looks snazzy and all, but it really gives away the comfort. Unless CX commits on not flying these on longer regionals (which I doubt), it’s not much of an improvement :(

clubeurope, SHF 1.67TB Travel Photo Library to the Rescue :D:D:D :tu::tu::tu:
If CX was to use the UL 320 Recliner seat, I doubt none of us here will be b!tching/meh right now.

Commitment in HKG, HA!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
How long is that going to last until it's a Historical Document which is no longer Valid :(


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...efa2991bd4.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...793c4d77e7.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d07f13eb6d.jpg



Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32881977)
Oh! My bad

I am really struggling to find a reclined photo of Qantas Domestic J. I don't think I even have one myself.
This is the closest I can get. I do see where you're coming from about legroom but I am more of a width guy than a tall guy https://www.mapworld.com.au/blogs/ne...s-class-review

percysmith, you definitely don't want the QF Domestic J seat :(

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...59627a0f3f.jpg

VE105 Dec 13, 2020 12:48 am

Those seats seem decent enough for the short flights these A321 will be operating.

VE105 Dec 13, 2020 12:49 am

Can't see the need of fully flat bed on any flights shorter than 5 or 6 hours anyway.

dkc192 Dec 13, 2020 1:53 am

Frankly I would prefer the original Barcalounger seats that were on the regional 777s and A330s above every other seat that has been thrown about here. I'm talking about the ones with manual recline and legrest extension, not the refreshed ones with electric recline that made it onto a handful of 777s. The cradle position on those seats was very comfortable IMHO, and a refresh of the upholstery, trim, and IFE system would make the seat quite appealing.

To be clear, I'm talking about these seats: https://onemileatatime.com/a380-extr...re-to-colombo/.

Short hair Francis Dec 13, 2020 2:46 am


Originally Posted by VE105 (Post 32882320)
Those seats seem decent enough for the short flights these A321 will be operating.
Can't see the need of fully flat bed on any flights shorter than 5 or 6 hours anyway.

If you keep doing those ~4 hrs red-eyes from the Subcontinent, you might say otherwise... :idea:
I've had more than a few South Asians who told me KA stinks on those flights and they go out of the way to avoid them. :o



Originally Posted by dkc192 (Post 32882384)
Frankly I would prefer the original Barcalounger seats that were on the regional 777s and A330s above every other seat that has been thrown about here. I'm talking about the ones with manual recline and legrest extension, not the refreshed ones with electric recline that made it onto a handful of 777s. The cradle position on those seats was very comfortable IMHO, and a refresh of the upholstery, trim, and IFE system would make the seat quite appealing.

This Seat! :idea:
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...888eabfdc2.jpg

Come to think of it, that seat was pretty comfy for that time period. :)
Rolling Tape IFE except

If CX were to go for a modern day Barcalounger, then then the most logical seat would be the one Malindo uses.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5b60e09416.jpg

Manual Adjustment, IFE, Seat Power :)

But then I would want to see Malindo prices and not Cathay prices.

Otherwise, why isn't one flying with OD then...
Plus who is CX competing with?
Hopefully not OD ;)

percysmith Dec 13, 2020 3:20 am


Originally Posted by Short hair Francis (Post 32882292)
percysmith, you definitely don't want the QF Domestic J seat :(

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...59627a0f3f.jpg

That seat has at least as much recline as JL Class J, but wider.

Something about the lumbar support of the existing slide forward CX regional J doesn't work for me.


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