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dparkinson Jan 24, 2021 1:58 am

I don’t see HAN listed on the CX website at all, nor does HK-HAN show up for CX on google flights. Is this just a COVID restriction relic or is CX not actually restarting on that route?

ernestnywang Jan 25, 2021 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by dparkinson (Post 32990480)
I don’t see HAN listed on the CX website at all, nor does HK-HAN show up for CX on google flights. Is this just a COVID restriction relic or is CX not actually restarting on that route?

HAN is not currently served, just like many destinations, but it is listed on https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_.../airports.html

Reply1984 Jan 26, 2021 8:49 am


Originally Posted by dparkinson (Post 32990480)
I don’t see HAN listed on the CX website at all, nor does HK-HAN show up for CX on google flights. Is this just a COVID restriction relic or is CX not actually restarting on that route?

There are some cargo-only passenger flights operated by CX.

Reply1984 Jan 26, 2021 9:52 pm

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...e59b216cd7.jpg

Here we go. CX will operate one passenger flight from Xiamen to Hong Kong on Feb 2.

Reply1984 Feb 3, 2021 9:59 pm

Here we go: CAAC, the Mainland regulator, officially approved CX operating 15 routes in Mainland China previously operated by KA.
http://www.caac.gov.cn/XXGK/XXGK/TZT...4127705510.pdf

15 destinations include Fuzhou, Qingdao, Xiamen, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Zhengzhou, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Xi'an, Wuhan, Wenzhou, Ningbo, Haikou, Sanya and Chongqing.

The 6 destinations in Mainland but CX not applying are Jinan, Kunming, Changsha, Guilin and Nanning. These cities seem to have little demand for business traveling.

brunos Feb 3, 2021 10:25 pm


Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 33015126)
Here we go: CAAC, the Mainland regulator, officially approved CX operating 15 destinations in Mainland China previously operated by KA.
http://www.caac.gov.cn/XXGK/XXGK/TZT...4127705510.pdf

15 destinations include Fuzhou, Qingdao, Xiamen, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Zhengzhou, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Xi'an, Wuhan, Wenzhou, Ningbo, Haikou, Sanya and Chongqing.

The 6 destinations in Mainland but CX not applying is Jinan, Kunming, Changsha, Guilin and Nanning. These cities seem to have little demand for business traveling.

As could be expected, all the important destinations have been retained by CX.
It remains to be seen if UO will apply to tourist destinations such as Kunming or Guilin. Bit that is for 2022 or later.

SLGO Feb 4, 2021 4:25 am


Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 33015126)
Here we go: CAAC, the Mainland regulator, officially approved CX operating 15 routes in Mainland China previously operated by KA.
http://www.caac.gov.cn/XXGK/XXGK/TZT...4127705510.pdf

15 destinations include Fuzhou, Qingdao, Xiamen, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Zhengzhou, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Xi'an, Wuhan, Wenzhou, Ningbo, Haikou, Sanya and Chongqing.

The 6 destinations in Mainland but CX not applying are Jinan, Kunming, Changsha, Guilin and Nanning. These cities seem to have little demand for business traveling.

Very good to know the green lights given to CX. On the other hand, it’s interesting to see CX bid for Guangzhou but not even Changsha.

lixiaojuventus Feb 4, 2021 5:35 am

Very good news! Really excited that Cathay was able to retain most of KA's mainland routes!

mucaari Feb 4, 2021 8:38 pm


Originally Posted by SLGO (Post 33015458)
Very good to know the green lights given to CX. On the other hand, it’s interesting to see CX bid for Guangzhou but not even Changsha.

Well Guangzhou is the third biggest city in China. If you want those people as transfer passengers, you need to offer them a flight. People are not gonna transfer via the train, it's still too slow and too much hassle.

Changsha on the other hand would naturally have much less transfer passengers. For O/D traffic, Changsha actually is one of the few routes outside Guangdong where the highspeed train is somewhat competitive in terms of travel times.

SKRan Feb 6, 2021 3:40 am


Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 33015126)
The 6 destinations in Mainland but CX not applying are Jinan, Kunming, Changsha, Guilin and Nanning. These cities seem to have little demand for business traveling.

What's the sixth city?

ernestnywang Feb 6, 2021 8:01 am


Originally Posted by Reply1984 (Post 33015126)
Here we go: CAAC, the Mainland regulator, officially approved CX operating 15 routes in Mainland China previously operated by KA.
http://www.caac.gov.cn/XXGK/XXGK/TZT...4127705510.pdf

15 destinations include Fuzhou, Qingdao, Xiamen, Guangzhou, Chengdu, Zhengzhou, Hangzhou, Nanjing, Xi'an, Wuhan, Wenzhou, Ningbo, Haikou, Sanya and Chongqing.

The 6 destinations in Mainland but CX not applying are Jinan, Kunming, Changsha, Guilin and Nanning. These cities seem to have little demand for business traveling.


Originally Posted by SKRan (Post 33019620)
What's the sixth city?

I think there are just 5 and they are exactly the ones that are no longer showing up on fare sheets: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32974383-post8.html

SLGO Feb 7, 2021 12:16 am


Originally Posted by mucaari (Post 33017210)
Well Guangzhou is the third biggest city in China. If you want those people as transfer passengers, you need to offer them a flight. People are not gonna transfer via the train, it's still too slow and too much hassle.

Changsha on the other hand would naturally have much less transfer passengers. For O/D traffic, Changsha actually is one of the few routes outside Guangdong where the highspeed train is somewhat competitive in terms of travel times.

I have flown once and only once to CAN on the KA evening departure from HKG, and the loading was so poor that perhaps there were only 20 pax on an A330. So I didn’t realise the transit business for CX is so good that even business at CSX cannot compare.

ozflier Feb 7, 2021 11:08 pm

No signs of any CX metal flights CTU-HKG yet either close up or further out.
Also interesting that PEK not included in transfer of KA to CX flights though I know that some Cathay flights were always flown separately to KA ones.

jhneoh Mar 7, 2021 10:05 pm

PEN-HKG can be booked now, from June 1 onwards.

Reply1984 Mar 13, 2021 7:55 pm

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/cx605

CX resumes Phnom Penh service (cargo-only for now), another route previously served by KA.


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