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Old May 21, 2021 | 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by bszeto
Hi,

It looks like CX is selling first class on flights to JFK in July/August (CX844 outbound, CX841 inbound)
Not looking to purchase first class but wouldn't mind burning some miles to upgrade from biz to first, given miles are just not worth much at this point
My question is - given that CX is still only operating once per week frequency to JFK at the moment and on a 359/35K (no first class), what's the likelihood of CX actually operating daily flights to JFK in July, let alone first class, comes July/August?

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June schedules was updated early this week, removing all F seats (that were scheduled on CX841/4 second half of June). I would expect this trend to continue.
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Old May 22, 2021 | 1:22 pm
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I suspect we have seen the end of First at CX.

Business Class far exceeds First Class standards of a decade ago.
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Old May 22, 2021 | 10:42 pm
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I think due to low passenger demand, CX is deliberately not selling F tickets so they can easily swop flights from 77W to 359 or 35K without having to accommodate those who bought F tickets. I think F will be back either later this year or early next year.
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Old May 23, 2021 | 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by deadinabsentia
I suspect we have seen the end of First at CX.

Business Class far exceeds First Class standards of a decade ago.
First will definitely be back. As others have said far cheaper to run the 359s than the 77Ws. So only when sufficient demand is back will they consider. Today the demand is only low single percentages of what it used to be. No sense in flying the more expensive planes.
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Old May 23, 2021 | 6:14 pm
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Agreed.
And CX cannot survive without positioning itself as a top premium airline.
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Old May 24, 2021 | 3:03 am
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Originally Posted by deadinabsentia
I suspect we have seen the end of First at CX.

Business Class far exceeds First Class standards of a decade ago.
Not when it comes to the number and quality of fellow passengers it doesn't.
First is about exclusivity as well as service levels.
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Old May 24, 2021 | 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by HarbourGent
Not when it comes to the number and quality of fellow passengers it doesn't.
First is about exclusivity as well as service levels.
Number, yes. Quality, depends on the type of pax you meet, if you understand what I mean.
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Old Jun 22, 2021 | 10:50 pm
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It looks like CX is using a F equipped aircraft from MXP, but not selling F. Does anyone know if DM can select a F seat if ticketed in J?
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Old Jun 23, 2021 | 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by uktraveller212
It looks like CX is using a F equipped aircraft from MXP, but not selling F. Does anyone know if DM can select a F seat if ticketed in J?
Not sure which date you are talking about, so I found the next available flight, which is on 02AUG. There's no availability in F, but F class is there. It is not the case where they are selling the F cabin as J.

Code:
12AUGMXPHKGCX
 02AUG  MON   MXP/Z2     HKG/6
CX RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **
** CATHAY PACIFIC - AN **                 40 MO 02AUG 0000
13CX  234 FL AL J9 CL DL PL IL W9 MXPHKG   1255 06251 77W 0
          RL EL Y9 BL HL KL ML LL VL SL NL QL OL
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Old Jun 23, 2021 | 10:23 am
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Any prediction will depend on the opening of travel.

CX has been postponing and postponing the resumption of travel to/from most European cities. Flights keep getting cancelled a month or so before.
Even when they schedule a month before flights to Europe have been massively cancelled.
They post that they resumed flying to FRA, but July only shows one flight every two weeks or so. They codeshare on LH.
They keep postponing the resumption to other major European cities. Right now LHR has a single daily flight in July (except for 1-3 July). AMS had resumed with 3 weekly, b ut it seems to get down to one weekly in July.

Whether MXP will resume soon is a big question mark.

CX is using A351 on all its European flights. They will start flying their 77W only when traffic has reached a much higher level where the "small" planes do not suffice.

All that to say that the question asked by the OP is highly theoretical.
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Old Oct 10, 2021 | 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by uktraveller212
It looks like CX is using a F equipped aircraft from MXP, but not selling F. Does anyone know if DM can select a F seat if ticketed in J?
Bumping this up. How does CX manage these type of flights when they use F-equipped 77Ws that they don't really "sell"?
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Old Oct 10, 2021 | 11:23 pm
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I am pretty sure that 77W flight from Milan to HK being referred to (CX234) is the same aircraft originating from Pittsburgh (CX8802) as one of those seasonal cargo only passenger flights that does HKG-SGN-HKG-PIT-MXP-HKG. Last year it was FRA instead of MXP
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