FREE CANCELLATION or NOT?!
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Beijing
Posts: 358
FREE CANCELLATION or NOT?!
Totally confused here by the last booking:
Booking was made in Premium Economy Flex, with no fees for re-booking, changes, and cancellations. Yet when the booking is completed the terms show a fee for cancellations and no show non the less (its on the last page of the booking confirmation, and not visible anywhere else)
Terms from the final page of the booking
Fare details on the first section of the booking
:
Penalty
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT BJSBCN CX RHARRYD8 PU 1 S
FCL: RHARRYD8 TRF: 4 RULE: 1710 BK: R
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: ZEX-PREMIUM ECONOMY EXCURSION
PE.PENALTIES
BETWEEN CHINA AND AREA 2 FOR RHARRYD8 TYPE FARES
ORIGINATING CHINA
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH
CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE.
2. CHILD/INFANT WITHOUT SEAT/INFANT WITH SEAT -
NO DISCOUNT APPLIES TO PENALTY FEE.
3. WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE -
CHARGE THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE WITHIN THE
PRICING UNIT.
4. THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION/SERVICE/HANDLING FEE
MAY APPLY.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH CHANGE FEE
AND NO-SHOW FEE.
Booking was made in Premium Economy Flex, with no fees for re-booking, changes, and cancellations. Yet when the booking is completed the terms show a fee for cancellations and no show non the less (its on the last page of the booking confirmation, and not visible anywhere else)
Terms from the final page of the booking
Fare details on the first section of the booking
:
Penalty
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT BJSBCN CX RHARRYD8 PU 1 S
FCL: RHARRYD8 TRF: 4 RULE: 1710 BK: R
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: ZEX-PREMIUM ECONOMY EXCURSION
PE.PENALTIES
BETWEEN CHINA AND AREA 2 FOR RHARRYD8 TYPE FARES
ORIGINATING CHINA
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH
CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE.
2. CHILD/INFANT WITHOUT SEAT/INFANT WITH SEAT -
NO DISCOUNT APPLIES TO PENALTY FEE.
3. WHEN THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE -
CHARGE THE HIGHEST PENALTY FEE WITHIN THE
PRICING UNIT.
4. THE LOCAL ADMINISTRATION/SERVICE/HANDLING FEE
MAY APPLY.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH CHANGE FEE
AND NO-SHOW FEE.
#2
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: HK
Programs: Qantas (Lifetime Gold), PAL (Elite), British Airways (now sadly blue), Cathay MPO DM
Posts: 647
you should contact Marco Polo. They should be able to ensure your ticket is as purchased. This is a clear failure to disclose terms.
#5
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Beijing
Posts: 358
Unless the Terms are just showing wrong, as I just did another dummy booking (in Booking Class K) and there is also a mention in the green grey section of a cancellation fee, BUT in this case its actually mentioned in numbers again further down in the text - under All fare Conditions. (Screen shot attached).
On the Premium Economy booking there are no numbers mentioned - meaning there is no charge?! Anyone know what the standard is to describe there is no charge?!
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CHARGE CNY 750 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CHARGE CNY 700 FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH
CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE.
versus:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH
CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE.
On the Premium Economy booking there are no numbers mentioned - meaning there is no charge?! Anyone know what the standard is to describe there is no charge?!
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CHARGE CNY 750 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CHARGE CNY 700 FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH
CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE.
versus:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR NO-SHOW.
NOTE -
1. IN THE EVENT OF NO-SHOW CHARGE BOTH
CANCELLATION FEE AND NO SHOW FEE.
Last edited by timesnaps; Jun 20, 2019 at 8:22 pm
#7
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYZ/MGA
Programs: AA 1MM Lifetime Gold, AA Platinum, WS Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 7,607
Assuming the fare options are accurate, the price difference is pretty expensive insurance.1,750 CNY to save 1,000 or 1,050 or 1,800. You'd think CX would encourage such purchases with the generally limited number of cancels/no-shows and changes for the average Joe. It's like paying more than the value of your house to insure your house.
I choose I and D fares vs. straight J fares because the change costs or cancel fees are a fraction of the savings, but this seems like a lot. Maybe the extra tier points or Asia Miles are worth the money?
I choose I and D fares vs. straight J fares because the change costs or cancel fees are a fraction of the savings, but this seems like a lot. Maybe the extra tier points or Asia Miles are worth the money?
#8
Join Date: May 2015
Location: WAS, SZX, HKG
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, CX Green
Posts: 736
Assuming the fare options are accurate, the price difference is pretty expensive insurance.1,750 CNY to save 1,000 or 1,050 or 1,800. You'd think CX would encourage such purchases with the generally limited number of cancels/no-shows and changes for the average Joe. It's like paying more than the value of your house to insure your house.
I choose I and D fares vs. straight J fares because the change costs or cancel fees are a fraction of the savings, but this seems like a lot. Maybe the extra tier points or Asia Miles are worth the money?
I choose I and D fares vs. straight J fares because the change costs or cancel fees are a fraction of the savings, but this seems like a lot. Maybe the extra tier points or Asia Miles are worth the money?
#9
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,595
Assuming the fare options are accurate, the price difference is pretty expensive insurance.1,750 CNY to save 1,000 or 1,050 or 1,800. You'd think CX would encourage such purchases with the generally limited number of cancels/no-shows and changes for the average Joe. It's like paying more than the value of your house to insure your house.
I choose I and D fares vs. straight J fares because the change costs or cancel fees are a fraction of the savings, but this seems like a lot. Maybe the extra tier points or Asia Miles are worth the money?
I choose I and D fares vs. straight J fares because the change costs or cancel fees are a fraction of the savings, but this seems like a lot. Maybe the extra tier points or Asia Miles are worth the money?
#10
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Beijing
Posts: 358
UPDATE:
for the sake of completeness, I have edited this post. I called CX and they confirmed over the phone that indeed there is no charge for either cancellation or no show on this fare (as per the original comparison in screenshot one). They also asked me to email them the screenshot or confirmation email to: "CXGCC Document Group" <[email protected]>. Needless to say I have heard nothing back from them so far....
Last edited by timesnaps; Jun 28, 2019 at 10:22 am Reason: UPDATE