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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
(Post 30198083)
Fingers crossed for this. CX has a far superior product on the route.
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Originally Posted by SKT-DK
(Post 30198157)
They do indeed, although the SK long-haul J product is not bad these days and has improved a lot (unless you have to connect to an intra-European flight).
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
(Post 30194904)
Too bad -- but not surprised given it was only 3x weekly. Anecdotally, the J cabin was 100% full when I flew CPH-HKG in June.
SAS is starting CPH-HKG 5x weekly from October onwards, which will probably impact CX's decision. |
Originally Posted by triplefives
(Post 30198171)
Interesting observation - it could have been full of non/low-revs (CX employees/family) since they're on a standby basis and the discount is so good they'll just fly where they have seats available
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll
(Post 30198203)
It's an entirely anecdotal observation and I have little insight into actual loads in the premium cabin on this route.
If only CX had attractive J fares from BKK via HKG to CPH, I would be using it exclusively! |
Sigh... Seems to be official now that CX will pull out of CPH and not come back :( Sorry, link In Danish but the key message is that despite good loads they will not return to CPH as part of an ‘ongoing evaluation of the route network’. https://www.check-in.dk/cathay-lukker-rute-koebenhavn/ |
Originally Posted by SKT-DK
(Post 30259448)
Sigh... Seems to be official now that CX will pull out of CPH and not come back :( Sorry, link In Danish but the key message is that despite good loads they will not return to CPH as part of an ‘ongoing evaluation of the route network’. https://www.check-in.dk/cathay-lukker-rute-koebenhavn/ |
what do you guys make out of the news that Cathay Pacific will not be having this seasonal route to Copenhagen in 2019? Why couldn't they make it work? or was it really just to test the water with no intention to have a full all year round service?
Business Traveller CX discontinues CPH |
CX has been touting that they are willing to be "agile" with new routes. Dusseldorf failed, now CPH, and IAD isn't looking great potentially.
Not sure how this new approach to routes is going to work out in the long run - do they lose money during these short trials? For CPH, you can now book SAS Business class for $17k ex HKG. Not sure if CX saw these prices and said there is no way they will be able to compete anymore and withdrew. |
Originally Posted by sxc
(Post 30290997)
CX has been touting that they are willing to be "agile" with new routes. Dusseldorf failed, now CPH, and IAD isn't looking great potentially.
Not sure how this new approach to routes is going to work out in the long run - do they lose money during these short trials? For CPH, you can now book SAS Business class for $17k ex HKG. Not sure if CX saw these prices and said there is no way they will be able to compete anymore and withdrew. |
CX made the mistake of launching their "attack" on SAS' home market with a seasonal route, let alone three flights weekly. They basically opened the door widely for SAS to move the (not so successful) ARN-HKG route to CPH (where it should have been launched from in the first place) exactly on the day after CX cease operations at CPH.
With a seasonal route they count on leisure travel - if targeting business travel they have to go all-year and higher frequencies like SAS is doing now. It takes investment and patience to open an intercontinental route, and sadly CX has shown that they are not willing to do either. |
CPH loading is not that bad but the key point is HKG (O&D included) cannot afford 2 daily flight. SAS's move is earlier than CX withdrawal, seems CX knows SAS will take action so they tend to leave
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or, they started 3 3-4/week destination and bcn without the intention of running all of them in the long term. cph might be the tougher one |
CX also has terrible marketing unlike SQ and EK
they never advertise or do road shows etc except in UK where the had a huge launch for Manchester.... |
Originally Posted by kaka
(Post 30294688)
or, they started 3 3-4/week destination and bcn without the intention of running all of them in the long term. cph might be the tougher one |
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