They finally put us up in a hotel for a night. They made it clear that it is for one night. Thank you everyone for your advice. Our insurance will help a little.

Interesting article on the KLM landing. I'm not a pilot so have to trust the experts on this. Wil be interesting to read any further discussion.

I stand by not flying MH though. They were flying over the Ukraine when most other airlines were deliberately avoiding it. Sure the specific incident was unprecedented but why take that risk?

Singapore 2 minutes ahead on the route.. Virgin behind.

No one thought they were in danger or route wouldn't have been planned.

Grow up.

MH likely had one suicidal individual.. (as has Egyptian, Silk air, ect... it happens) and one stroke of fate. They operate daily into difficult airports in Asia without incident.

I don't work for them or have anything to do with them.. but they are a safe carrier.

"Most other airlines" = which ones?

Not true. Airlines were still flying over Ukraine. It's only after the incident that airlines decided to fly around Ukraine.

Yes including LH and SQ.

It seems purely unlucky for MH during that year... where were all their 777s gone?

Let's stay on the topic of Typhoon Hato and the effect on CX's operations.

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These sort of comments pop up every time a typhoon comes along, it seems certain type of people like to downplay the severity of these storms. I assume its ignorance rather than malice. Wind speeds got up to 180kmh at HKIA and 10 people dies as the typhoon made landfall so its wasn't anything like a typical day on the UK coast or 'elf and safety' gone mad.

The issue is as the construction standards in HK now mean everyone lives in a reinforced concrete bunker and its very easy to feel disconnected from the true intensity of these storms

While its annoying for people to have their flights cancelled its far better than having a plane slide of the runway into the sea or worse.

Agreed. As someone who also grew up around the coast in the UK, a typhoon is a million miles away from any storm in the UK. Leave the concrete clad building in mid levels and go down to the coast or up onto high ground and say it's nothing exceptional.

It would be very dangerous to have ground staff out operating heavy equipment on an airfield.

There are a number of citizen-reporter videos out there from Hato showing trucks keeling over, heavy dumpsters and other loading equipment shuffling wildly all over the place, a construction crane doing wild 360s, scaffolding smashing into building windows, people getting knocked over by the wind, and the clincher, a truck overturning and crushing its owner to death.

And airports are full of loading equipment, trucks, and things that swing in and out. Plus things that fly.

I guess christep grew on up on the French Lieutenant's Woman coastline, but to me Hato was a one in a 5-10 year event...

CX548 on Saturday got switched to 77G from 77H, but today and tomorrow's 548/549 are still on 77H. Do you guys think it's Hato Related? I'm sure flight ops is pretty complex, but between today and tomorrow, I would have expected all 77Hs would have made it back to HKG by Saturday morning to do the flight.

MPO is only offering to convert my RT redemption to OW, and will only return 20K miles and if I don't agree, they cannot reissue my ticket, holding my trip hostage.

what's the easiest way to see which aircraft you're on? I usually check with seat guru but not sure if there's a better way with more up to date info.

I noticed it yesterday when my Z-class booking was changed to U-Class, which in fact is also incorrect because my ticket is already on I-Class. Upon checking the aircraft is now 77G or the 3 class config of the 77W.

I initially thought they need a higher capacity a/c to ferry stranded passengers from yesterday's cancellation but if today and tomorrow's 548 is still on 77H, then how is Saturday different.

Could it be because of crewing? Running out of crew perhaps?

They keep announcing new flights that are delayed because of aircraft rotation. Like there's an announcement every 5 minutes. No doubt a result of the typhoon. Gl everyone but luckily delays seem very minoe