Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 25496778)

IS CX going to keep the way that status are earned? eg GR - > SL (zero down) -> GO (zero down) -> DM

Or is a straight 1200 Tier Points going to get you DM?

Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 25496504)

1. Yes, See FAQ：
“4. When will the Marco Polo Club changes take effect?
The Marco Polo Club changes will take effect starting 15 April 2016. Until then, you will continue to achieve tier status based on the current club miles and club sectors programme. To support your transition, on 15 April 2016, the Marco Polo Club will convert the higher balance of either your club miles or club sectors proportionately to club points. Your current membership period does not change, and lasts 12 months from the date you have enrolled, renewed, upgraded or downgraded from your current tier.”

Originally Posted by Fly Me To The Moon (Post 25496779)

I see that Silver members get a mid-tier benefit of two lounge passes which "can be used by yourself or your travel companion". I don't get it. Why would a Silver member want to use a lounge pass on him/herself if he/she can get lounge access as a benefit anyway?

Am I misunderstanding something here?

Originally Posted by jacobsleather (Post 25496798)

On https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...-benefits.html it only says "your travel companion"

Originally Posted by jacobsleather (Post 25496798)

On https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...-benefits.html it only says "your travel companion"

Originally Posted by ZenWorld (Post 25496720)

Looks like we can start a CX Tier Point Run Thread, and find the cheapest cost to Diamond!

Originally Posted by dek526 (Post 25496644)

if it's true then that'll be my game plan...earn GO then work on AA platinum which will be easier to achieve

Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 25496451)

The miles-converter-to-points thing agencyguy linked to is not working for me, either.

Originally Posted by Fly Me To The Moon (Post 25496878)

I'm all for the Mod to start an official CX Tier Point Run Thread, and when he does, please move this over!

In the meantime, let me throw this out and see if it makes sense: my travel patterns allow me to qualify for Diamond based on sectors (mainly short haul) rather than on miles. For example, if MPC had converted my status to Tier Points today, I would have 850 Tier Points if based on sectors, but only about half that if based on miles.

My membership year ends on 31.Dec.2015, and I will be able to requalify as Diamond by then. If there will be any "extra" sectors, I will hold off posting them to MPC, but will apply for retroactive credit in the new membership year beginning 01.Jan.2016.

From 01.Jan - 14.Apr, I will try to get in as many shorthaul flights in as possible, usually in the lowest V class, and each flight would give me 1/80th of a sector. These would then convert over to Tier Points proportionally, and would be worth slightly more than the Tier Points that V class would offer under the new scheme (only 5/1200 or 10/1200 Tier Points for me).

For any long-haul flights (usually in Business) taken during 01.Jan - 14.Apr, I would hold off on crediting to MPC, since this would only give me 1.25/80th of a sector. After 15.Apr, I would then apply for retroactive credit and these long-haul flights would give 90/1200 or 105/1200 Tier Points....proportionately more.

Does this sound like a sound strategy? So much to consider...my head is reeling today! :)

Originally Posted by jagmeets (Post 25496900)

Still reading through, but the Seat guarantee devaluation is massive...recall that being voted the punchiest FF benefit here on flyertalk.

Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 25496675)

You bring up a good point. I indeed have a lot of miles, but flat-out F awards of 220k miles or upgrade awards b/w 50-100k+ can put a dent in the balance very quickly. Unlike others in here, I generate perhaps 2/3 of my Asia Miles balance through flying. So ~225-300k Asia Miles annually that way. Perhaps maybe not as much as you might expect. Now, the miles are so damn hard to burn so they sit there. (only after really digging into partner programs and figuring out this mileage arbitrage "game" this year did I learn how many miles - and probably CX F flights via AA - I have given up by sticking so loyally to Asia Miles).

But the future is here now. This is how I'm thinking about these upgrade certs: "even if partner redemption rates/arbitrage situation remains unchanged, I will have the equivalent of a much higher AM balance." And, this strengthens my award positioning against partner arbitrage as an MPC/AM Diamond member because one of the few things partners can't get - upgrades from a cash fare - Asia Miles members can. And it completely avoids the dumb situation CX has I describe at the bottom, where full redemption (not upgrade redemption) DM members trying to redeem Asia Miles for an F ticket are actually at a disadvantage compared to say an AA EXP trying for the same full redemption. Upgrades from cash fares are some of the most valuable things Asia Miles offers because of scarcity value against partners. CX would be wise to not change the burn rate here, or even reduce it, as a way to counter the partner arbitrage and benefit AM - without harming partner demand itself.

Upgrade awards for myself are perhaps half of what I use my current Asia Miles' balance for, so if this system works I'll be "richer" despite the miles not being in my account. 4x J-F long-haul redemption award certs to me is the equivalent of a few hundred thousand Asia Miles!

Of course, the above statement involves some assumptions:
a.) I can use these confirmed upgrades like AsiaMiles upgrades (aka, I can use waitlist)
b.) Waitlist will actually work as expected, which means I have priority over other partners for newly-released inventory. Of course many of us have anecdotes of the waitlist NOT working as expected and partner awards scoring seats that should've been allocated to AM members on the waitlist.

I would be thrilled if CX would allow for free changes, and refundable tickets, provided you re-issue an award in a higher class . This is a major, easy-to-fix issue that puts MPC on at least a level playing field with its partners in terms of awards. One of the absolutely most frustrating things is reading AA EXPs in here holding J inventory and waiting for F to open up. Then, they can change for free if F opens. This is de facto a type of waiting list, and is simply not possible for DMs, who ultimately are forced to ticket in J (which will be non-refundable) by a certain date. Which means even if F opens up, I'm stuck in J because of course I don't want to waste that ticket. Has happened to me a few times before and I have no doubt an AA member grabbed the F seat that came available later. I absolutely represent "demand" for that seat at a higher yield for CX than a partner redemption, but CX's policies towards award re-issue and refund prevent themselves from yielding up and accepting the partner redemption instead. I am certain this is just an unintended accident of complexity but hoping they'll resolve it.

Originally Posted by wenbin85 (Post 25496926)

Hmm help me out here...my membership period is until 30 Apr 2016 and I could achieve the current requirement (40 sectors) before that but if they change the system on 15 Apr, are they gonna convert all my current sectors based on the fare I bought for the past year? If that is the case I might be downgraded to SL.

Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 25496243)

Bad! Seat guarantee will only be for J, W, and Y only.:td:

Originally Posted by sxc (Post 25496307)

For those Diamonds who were hoping this was going to reduce lounge crowding, the opposite will occur. Previously it would take around 10-11 round-trip business class trips to London to reach Diamond (a typical Diamond trip). Now in D/I class, it will only take around 6-7 trips.

So there are going to be many more Diamonds around moving crowds from the J lounge to the F lounge.

Diamonds won't feel so special anymore.

Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 25496316)

Yup I pretty much think so. So they're encouraging ex-XXX activity...:D

Originally Posted by flyertalk2015 (Post 25496963)

Something interesting about the calculator. I used AA RT from JFK-HKG Econ 1 class. And you will get 80 pts (40 each way). If you pick CX as the flight lowest Econ class only give u 20 points.

Not sure if it is a mistakes or something. It seems that one world may have a diff conversion rate? I expect new rules should devalue other ff programs. Strange

Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 25496799)

Reset each time like before.