Hadsst, that's what I intend to do. I will have enough to retain my DM status until December 2016 but I will be spending the whole of next year migrating to either AA, or a programme with star alliance.

I'm so glad I haven't booked any travel with CX for 2016 yet.

+1 here

why bother to pay PEY for almost the same services as YBHK right?!

Chongcao I beg to differ. I will reach my 120,000 miles this year and all of those miles will be earnt travelling for leisure. Of those miles, 117,000 miles will be on CX.

I am based at an outport so this is not an easy task (for example, earlier this year I flew from LHR to ORD via HKG on CX). The guaranteed seat availability is the most valued benefit for me - I can't always take my leave exactly when I want to and it's great to know that when I can get time off, I can book the exact flights I want in V class (ie: at a reasonable price) even if they are full. I agree that the price probably isn't so much of a concern when you are travelling for business (ie: when you are not paying for it yourself), but sadly that is not the case for me.

They have made some attempt... A portion of Silver's are being weeded out because the requirement to retain this status is now higher. Naturally the number of SL's clogging up the lounges will decrease; plus the fact that DM's are unable to use the lounge if flying another airline, this will eliminate another small portion of lounge patrons.

Er... I do to some extent - (i) PEY is still more comfortable, and (ii) AFAIK, R & E usually cost less than Y & B for SFO (that can happen if I do not use seat guarantee).

my point of view was for chasing the points/miles, so if you focus on the points... it is not fair to pay PEY but not getting better points compare with full price Econ

for other factors of cuz PEY is better than econ for sure.. the cost and benefits may not..

Somehow, it is quite interesting since I have checking out pricing from CX, AA and credit card website.. I am surprised that quite a Big differences for pricing and class you can get... I found a PEY flight on a site but on CX or AA website is $500 or more..

I am confused with one point....

"Bookable Upgrades" - Does that means no one can request or book for a one class upgrade or return one class upgrade anymore after you purchase a airfare? Except if you are a Gold or Diamond of course.

OK ... this is very very interesting. I'm reading this as CX going back to the good old days whereby it is willing to open up certain revenue bucket. If my logic below is right then I think CX is finally putting MPC members first.

Say we're talking about First class redemption.
1) CX will start each flight with 0 Z class. Therefore no-one - MPC or partner airline members - can redeem first class seat. This is a necessity to make these bookable upgrade coupons a 'priority' since CX presumably doesn't want to cannibalize revenue seats.
2) If you happen to have these bookable upgrade coupons, the coupon will 'look' at A class which is a revenue seat and your upgrade request is confirmed. The A CX uses is essentially the current Z. So someone who fly a lot (you need to be GO or DM to get those coupons in the first place) and paid for his/her seat with cash (this is upgrade coupon not straight redemption) will get priority over others.
3) If you're trying to do straight redemption (or upgrade using AM), you will be put on a waiting list.
4) Z class will be opened say 2 weeks prior to flight.
5) Everyone on the waiting list - MPC members only naturally - will be cleared first.
6) Partner airline members can then access any remaining Z bucket.

Repeat the same process for U class (business class redemption).

Is my logic sound? Do you think this is what CX will really really really do? :D

Not that it will benefit me (at this point I don't think I can get to 1600 TP) but I'm perfectly fine with other, more valuable MPC members sitting up-front. :) In theory it should increase all MPC members' chance for points upgrade/redemption since all redemption buckets won't be opened until much later rather that 3xx days in advance ...

I certainly hope that is what he meant. :D I'm sure there's a reason for it but I think booking it in a higher subclass is a roundabout way to make these coupons a higher priority. By shifting Z to A (or U to I) and use it for these coupons, CX isn't cannibalizing its 'true' revenue seats.

AgencyGuy seems to suggest the bookable upgrade coupons will look for a different/revenue bucket. So using it shouldn't be an issue since it is a 'priority'. The one i'm really interested in knowing is that how many Z and U will CX start for each flight? That is key in determining whether MPC members come out ahead.

Changes to MPC announced for 15 Apr 2016
 

Predominantly Y flyers may find it difficult
to switch to other programs, no? AA doesn't award anything for most economy fares on CX. And BA has a 2 or 4 segment BA requirement for ruby and sapphire/emerald respectively. So unless you fly to Europe regularly you'll struggle.

I'm not surprised that the new system will make it harder for discount Y flyers to earn status. I'm more surprised that it won't be easier to earn status I'm higher cabins, relatively speaking. They've gone for incremental differences in points earned by cabin flown when I would ha e expected them to go for multiples.

You can get E class at 1.5x EQP. It takes only five RTs SFO-HKG (plus whatever minimum AA segment requirements) to get to EXP within a calendar year and without EQP/EQM reset.

Thinking...

CX is still continuing to evaluate the feedbacks from this change. Apr 15 is more than 6 months away. Sure, CX might have already made up their mind and not budge an inch. But as could been seen from the other mega thread, AgencyGuy and CX had indeed taken into consideration (some) of the feedback's members expressed on here. I don't see how such discussion would be irrelevant to this thread's topic.

Y might be a bit steep but like CrazyJ82 mention, offering V fares to every GO/DM was just too generous and CX was definitely leaving too much revenue on the table for too many years. They should made it a "devaluation" and made it into something along the lines of HKM.

Don’t forget many GO and DM usually fly in J, at least as an outport MPC member, I’ve attained GO by flying J. But I do agree that HKM would’ve been much better than full-fare.

What's so surprising here? It has always been the case where long haul (any maybe SH?)'s (close to) full fare Econ fare class cost just as much, if not more, than discounted PEY.

If you're traveling on SH, then yes - there's not much service difference. But it's mainly the chair (agruable) and comfort you're paying for. (And that extra J plated meal)

Almost every Economy and Premium Economy flight across the board has a devaluation in terms of status earning power. Premium economy devaluation is a surprise to many but there are a few sweet spots in the changes...

I reverse engineered the program in a few hours and created my own calculator. Give it a whirl and let me know what you think: https://www.flyora.com/data/cathay-p...calculator.php