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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 6:23 pm
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CX E Fare Upgrade Question

My friend flew on CX 883 (LAX>HKG) on a revenue "E" ticket.

When we arrived at the airport, he asked to be upgraded, CX staff said he could upgrade to J for "20,000 AsiaMiles"

I thought the E ticket wasn't upgradeable?

I ask because clearly this is a great move. Book a $1,800 RT E fare in Premium Economy and upgrade to J for 20k miles each way vs. 120k miles for a RT J award.

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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 6:32 pm
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Either that particular staff at LAX was a newbie who didn't know the fare class/upgrade rules properly; or there was a mis-communication between you and your friend, and he actually bought an R fare.

Seems too good to be true that CX has decided to make E an upgradeable fare.

Anyway, what happened in the end?
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 11:35 pm
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Yeah this was a mistake or a miscommunication somewhere.

I flew that same route (CX881, LAX-HKG) about a week ago, on an E fare, and I upgraded it (at check in) to J with 20,000 Asia Miles, but I also had to pay around $190 to make that leg into an "R" fare first.

If your buddy really pulled it off with an E fare and no payment, it was just luck. There has been no policy change by CX on this recently.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 4:39 am
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Originally Posted by RevJim
Yeah this was a mistake or a miscommunication somewhere.

I flew that same route (CX881, LAX-HKG) about a week ago, on an E fare, and I upgraded it (at check in) to J with 20,000 Asia Miles, but I also had to pay around $190 to make that leg into an "R" fare first.

If your buddy really pulled it off with an E fare and no payment, it was just luck. There has been no policy change by CX on this recently.
So you're saying that you also experienced this "mistake" or are you saying that E is upgradeable for 20k miles plus the $190

(Yes - he ended up paying the $190 in addition to the 20k AsiaMiles)

(Reading more - it appears the $190 makes the E>R and hence the upgrade)

WHICH is still a great deal for J on CX ($1,800 RT E fare, to R for $400 more (RT) and then only 40k AsiaMiles for J)
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 5:11 am
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Originally Posted by DaKrisht
So you're saying that you also experienced this "mistake" or are you saying that E is upgradeable for 20k miles plus the $190

(Yes - he ended up paying the $190 in addition to the 20k AsiaMiles)

(Reading more - it appears the $190 makes the E>R and hence the upgrade)

WHICH is still a great deal for J on CX ($1,800 RT E fare, to R for $400 more (RT) and then only 40k AsiaMiles for J)
It will depend on where your ticket was issued. I guarantee you the one-way difference between an ex-HKG E and R is a whole lot more than USD190!
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by CrazyJ82
It will depend on where your ticket was issued. I guarantee you the one-way difference between an ex-HKG E and R is a whole lot more than USD190!
Sounds about right for most ex-USA/Canada tickets.
Can't produce R fares on ex-USA on CX.com but quick search for YVR-HKG gives me $2322 for E, and $2827 for R. Difference of CAD $505.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 2:24 pm
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When I try to book the Y+ ticket online, it always quotes an R outbound and an E inbound. You have to call CX to get an R fare priced for both segments.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 2:51 pm
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That's the one-way diff.

Code:
fqlaxhkg-cx
LAX-HKG       CXR-CX       THU 27MAR14                     USD  
AA  3/ 0/26  AC  0/ 0/ 5  AF  0/ 0/ 1  BA  0/ 0/ 6  BR  0/ 0/ 6  
CA  0/ 0/ 7  CI  0/ 0/ 2  CX  3/ 0/ 0  CZ  0/ 0/ 1  DL  0/ 0/ 6  
JL  0/ 0/ 3  KE  0/ 0/ 5  KL  0/ 0/ 1  LH  0/ 0/ 2  LX  0/ 0/ 1  
MH  0/ 0/ 1  MU  0/ 0/ 3  NH  0/ 0/ 4  NZ  0/ 0/ 3  OZ  0/ 0/ 4  
PR  0/ 0/ 2  QF  0/ 0/ 1  SQ  0/ 0/ 2  SU  0/ 0/ 1  TG  0/ 0/ 2  
TK  0/ 0/ 1  UA  0/ 0/19  US  0/ 0/ 1  VS  0/ 0/ 2    
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//  
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED  
CX     LAXHKG.PA       27MAR14          MPM  8698  
   V  FARE BASIS AP  FARE-OW   FARE-RT BK   SEASON  MINMAX  RTG  
...
 18    ELXSPCL    -            1632.00 E01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 19    KLSPCLO    -   840.00           K01JAN-23MAY -/ 6M PA01  
 20    ELWSPCL    -            1732.00 E01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 21    HLSPCLO    -   930.00           H01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 22    BLSPCL     -            1955.00 B01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 23    RLXSPCL    -            2000.00 R01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 24    ELSPCLO    -  1039.00           E01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 25    RLWSPCL    -            2100.00 R01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
That's the one-way diff.

Code:
fqlaxhkg-cx
LAX-HKG       CXR-CX       THU 27MAR14                     USD  
AA  3/ 0/26  AC  0/ 0/ 5  AF  0/ 0/ 1  BA  0/ 0/ 6  BR  0/ 0/ 6  
CA  0/ 0/ 7  CI  0/ 0/ 2  CX  3/ 0/ 0  CZ  0/ 0/ 1  DL  0/ 0/ 6  
JL  0/ 0/ 3  KE  0/ 0/ 5  KL  0/ 0/ 1  LH  0/ 0/ 2  LX  0/ 0/ 1  
MH  0/ 0/ 1  MU  0/ 0/ 3  NH  0/ 0/ 4  NZ  0/ 0/ 3  OZ  0/ 0/ 4  
PR  0/ 0/ 2  QF  0/ 0/ 1  SQ  0/ 0/ 2  SU  0/ 0/ 1  TG  0/ 0/ 2  
TK  0/ 0/ 1  UA  0/ 0/19  US  0/ 0/ 1  VS  0/ 0/ 2    
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//  
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED  
CX     LAXHKG.PA       27MAR14          MPM  8698  
   V  FARE BASIS AP  FARE-OW   FARE-RT BK   SEASON  MINMAX  RTG  
...
 18    ELXSPCL    -            1632.00 E01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 19    KLSPCLO    -   840.00           K01JAN-23MAY -/ 6M PA01  
 20    ELWSPCL    -            1732.00 E01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 21    HLSPCLO    -   930.00           H01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 22    BLSPCL     -            1955.00 B01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 23    RLXSPCL    -            2000.00 R01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 24    ELSPCLO    -  1039.00           E01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01  
 25    RLWSPCL    -            2100.00 R01JAN-23MAY -/12M PA01
Yes I am just looking to buy a R/T R class ticket and it is ~400USD more than E class.

BTW, what's the difference between the RLXSPCL 2000.00 and RLWSPCL 2100.00? both are R class right?
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by cxlabase
Yes I am just looking to buy a R/T R class ticket and it is ~400USD more than E class.

BTW, what's the difference between the RLXSPCL 2000.00 and RLWSPCL 2100.00? both are R class right?
Usually, ....W.... means weekend fare, and ....X.... means weekday fare.
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 6:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
Usually, ....W.... means weekend fare, and ....X.... means weekday fare.
Yes...how could I forget they charge 50 more each time you pick a weekend flight. Thanks.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 7:53 am
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The fare difference is calculated at the airport based on a HALF R/T HALF R/T R/E fare and then difference is charged and upgrade done.
Instant upgrades are a great feature of the MPC/AM programs and I am glad that they have the sense to do everything quickly at the airport - only wish BA could learn from this
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