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LHR/MEL/Europe FF Jun 5, 2015 9:37 pm


Originally Posted by dkjb3t4 (Post 24926806)
I'm flying the KA951 which I think does not have a first class (it didn't when I flew last year) and it was a joke of a J cabin (pretty bad food, non-flat reclining seat, etc).

I have the same flight coming up soon and I'm really hoping it will be better this time, but I doubt it.

My reservation is a first class ticket so it's really a shame that KA does not have a first class for this route.

Doesn't look like F is offered on that route. You'll have the standard regional business class offering. Which is a step up from say US domestic first class.

Cathay Boy Jun 5, 2015 10:28 pm


Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF (Post 24926837)
Doesn't look like F is offered on that route. You'll have the standard regional business class offering. Which is a step up from say US domestic first class.

USA First Class domestic.... I wouldn't even call them Premium Economy, more like Economy Plus, nothing premium about these jokers. No wonder nobody wants to pay for them....

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Jun 5, 2015 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by Cathay Boy (Post 24926976)
USA First Class domestic.... I wouldn't even call them Premium Economy, more like Economy Plus, nothing premium about these jokers. No wonder nobody wants to pay for them....

It's all relative I guess :)

And some do pay for it if they can't get it guaranteed for free... as is often the case of some of the peak flights. It's not a bad product compared to the seating on European domestic premium. Service is good. Alcohol is free. What more is there for a flight of a couple hours?

dkjb3t4 Jun 5, 2015 11:05 pm


Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF (Post 24926837)
Doesn't look like F is offered on that route. You'll have the standard regional business class offering. Which is a step up from say US domestic first class.

haha.
i always fly economy when I fly within US because nothing is really worth paying for except maybe LA to NYC (too long for economy)


but do you think they may have upgraded the cabin since I've been there?
last time i tried it, my seat hardly reclined and it was more similar to economy than first class.

dkjb3t4 Jun 5, 2015 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF (Post 24926991)
It's all relative I guess :)

And some do pay for it if they can't get it guaranteed for free... as is often the case of some of the peak flights. It's not a bad product compared to the seating on European domestic premium. Service is good. Alcohol is free. What more is there for a flight of a couple hours?

i just wish more airlines resembled Korean Air, which has a rather visually harmonious (pretty), energetic (young) staff.
even some of the other asian airlines like JAL and CX seem to not do this.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Jun 5, 2015 11:17 pm


Originally Posted by dkjb3t4 (Post 24927060)
haha.
i always fly economy when I fly within US because nothing is really worth paying for except maybe LA to NYC (too long for economy)


but do you think they may have upgraded the cabin since I've been there?
last time i tried it, my seat hardly reclined and it was more similar to economy than first class.

Looks like the KA951 is being operated by an a330, so that will be wide 2-2-2 seating. They're fairly comfortable. Im not entirely sure if all the a330s have now been converted to the new regional business class... but the old ones were comfortable anyway.

The a320 is pretty bad. Limited recline... just two rows in a tiny cabin. But seat width is still there... only 2-2 instead of 3-3. (And economy/coach on the a320s is particularly bad!!)

hillrider Jun 5, 2015 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by dkjb3t4 (Post 24927060)
but do you think they may have upgraded the cabin since I've been there?
last time i tried it, my seat hardly reclined and it was more similar to economy than first class.

Yeah, they've generally "updated" the seating pitch from 42" to 38".

38" is the pitch of CX's economy plus.

dkjb3t4 Jun 6, 2015 12:28 am


Originally Posted by hillrider (Post 24927153)
Yeah, they've generally "updated" the seating pitch from 42" to 38".

38" is the pitch of CX's economy plus.

awful.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Jun 6, 2015 12:31 am


Originally Posted by hillrider (Post 24927153)
Yeah, they've generally "updated" the seating pitch from 42" to 38".

38" is the pitch of CX's economy plus.

Dragonair says seat pitch has been increased from 45' to 47' (42' to 45' on narrow body aircraft): http://www.dragonair.com/ka/en_PH/ab...velopment.html

Premium economy is a separate product on CX, at 38'.


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