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brunos Dec 31, 2013 4:06 am


Originally Posted by jona970318 (Post 21978019)
So, I guess this is the third variation of the successful 'worlds best business class' product after CX and AA

US was first in using these seats.

NA-Flyer Dec 31, 2013 4:15 am


Originally Posted by IanFromHKG (Post 21981815)
Air France have also decided to adopt it: http://www.ausbt.com.au/air-france-p...business-class.

AF will have an edge over other european airlines (BA+LH+LX) if these seats to be installed ^

Kachjc Dec 31, 2013 9:13 am


Originally Posted by oldyjiang (Post 22054922)
Obviously you're missing his point. He's not doing a seat comparison between US airlines and Asian airlines. He's not comparing the old First Class seat and the new First Class seat. Webb's point is completely valid - the first class seat (and first class pricing) is a CX business class seat with new covering - it is NOT a first class seat. I had the same reaction as him when I saw it.

CX also uses those seats for LONG-HAUL routes

KA uses it for SHORT-HAUL routes

hardly any confusion or sneakiness there.

ithe KA first class seat is now the top short haul dedicated first class seat on earth.

if Mr Webb would like lower standards and a simple recline seat like the rest- he should zip it and fly mainland airlines!!!

seriously- even when KA/CX improve their product to the top people complain.....

cxfan1960 Dec 31, 2013 10:50 am


Originally Posted by Kachjc (Post 22056391)
CX also uses those seats for LONG-HAUL routes

CX uses this type of seats for long haul business class only.


Originally Posted by Kachjc (Post 22056391)
seriously- even when KA/CX improve their product to the top people complain.....

:D

zhaobao Jan 2, 2014 11:02 pm

There is of course the rotation of aircraft and hence you may see long-haul business class seats show up with say the flights to/from Manila.

Has any airline solved the issue of the persons sitting in D/K seeing the TV screens of the neighbours if the TV screen is lodged in the original position ?

rendezvous Jan 8, 2014 6:33 pm

According to wikipedia, KA only has 6 a330s with a first class cabin, so the retrofit should be a fairly quick process, right? Maybe 2 or 3 months?

maortega15 Jan 8, 2014 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by rendezvous (Post 22114601)
According to wikipedia, KA only has 6 a330s with a first class cabin, so the retrofit should be a fairly quick process, right? Maybe 2 or 3 months?

Retrofit + a D-check = A month or so per plane.

maortega15 Jan 8, 2014 7:27 pm

And since this thread has been bumped
 
Who updates this page?:
http://www.flyerguide.com/wiki/index...air_(KA)_Fleet

Not sure why The new First class has not been added. :confused:

sxc Jan 8, 2014 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by maortega15 (Post 22114843)
Retrofit + a D-check = A month or so per plane.

Plus all the planes might not be due a D-check sequentially.

maortega15 Jan 8, 2014 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 22114851)
Plus all the planes might not be due a D-check sequentially.

It would still take a month or so regardless.

rendezvous Jan 11, 2014 4:36 pm

I have a HKG-PEK flight in KA F during mid-May, so I'm hoping the new F class will be installed by the time of my flight.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Jan 11, 2014 4:46 pm


Originally Posted by rendezvous (Post 22135045)
I have a HKG-PEK flight in KA F during mid-May, so I'm hoping the new F class will be installed by the time of my flight.

bonus #1 is actually getting an aircraft with F (no substitutions) and bonus #2 would be new F :)

MilesBuzz Jan 11, 2014 5:15 pm

Isn't AA new Flagship First on the A321T using the same seat as well, on the JFK-LAX/SFO route, which is longer than KA's regional routes that use F (primarily only serving PEK and SHA)?

CanucksHKG Jan 27, 2014 4:25 am

A33R uploaded:
http://www.dragonair.com/ka/en_HK/tr...-300-a33r.html

Doesn't look like it will take much room more than the J's seat.
Wonder if CX/KA will really profit from these "F" seats...or just slowly turn into an op-up heaven....:rolleyes:

deadinabsentia Jan 28, 2014 1:57 am

These seats sell.
ALL THE TIME.
Although op ups occur, many many times the F cabin leaves full to/from PEK and SHA


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