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AsiaFFlyer May 10, 2016 11:35 am

Thanks QRC3288! I was able to upgrade all my segments to business from PEY with a little last minute flexibility.

On an CX upgrade flight it looks like one gets AM at the base fare rate?

alphaod May 10, 2016 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by AsiaFFlyer (Post 26604426)
On an CX upgrade flight it looks like one gets AM at the base fare rate?

Yes, you get AM based on your original booking fare class.

cxfan1960 May 13, 2016 2:11 pm


Originally Posted by AsiaFFlyer (Post 26604426)
Thanks QRC3288! I was able to upgrade all my segments to business from PEY with a little last minute flexibility.

On an CX upgrade flight it looks like one gets AM at the base fare rate?

Yes, one should get miles based on the underlying ticket class, but CX forgot about that quite often in the past (up until about two years ago). They are quite consistent in crediting correct miles now.

Sebastian Fan May 24, 2016 8:03 am

CX238 for 27th May is showing
J3 C2 D2 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Is this typical of an overbooked CX flight?
i've booked economy(M) class,also I'm a new MPC green member.
Will i get an upgrade bonus?

percysmith May 24, 2016 7:25 pm

It doesn't look likely from here but in case I'm wrong can you report back please?

G-CIVC May 24, 2016 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 26676930)
It doesn't look likely from here but in case I'm wrong can you report back please?

From seat map it looks like W and Y is chock block full and J can process at most 8 op ups (most likely less than that). So if there are 8 W->J and Y->W then OP would have to bet that there are < 8 DM/GO/EM/SA/SL in EY.

percysmith May 24, 2016 7:53 pm

Isn't CIV the correct tiebreaker these days?

(But status is a loose indicator of CIV)

hrunting May 24, 2016 10:19 pm

Hi, I'm new here as well. Apologies if this question has been asked before, but I was unable to find it elsewhere.

Can you upgrade a seat using miles twice? For example can I buy an economy seat, upgrade it to premium economy using miles, and then upgrade the same seat again with miles to business class?

Asked another way, does a premium economy seat need to be a revenue ticket in order to be upgradable to business class?

Thanks

percysmith May 24, 2016 11:21 pm

No

Yes

G-CIVC May 24, 2016 11:29 pm


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 26677052)
Isn't CIV the correct tiebreaker these days?

(But status is a loose indicator of CIV)

Hmm CIV should be the tiebreaker within a tier (e.g. when to opup one DM over another)

And of course unlikely that a GR has a higher CIV than a DM :D

Anyway this is a million dollar question...

hrunting May 25, 2016 7:55 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 26677685)
No

Yes

Thanks

cxfan1960 May 25, 2016 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by hrunting (Post 26677518)
Asked another way, does a premium economy seat need to be a revenue ticket in order to be upgradable to business class?

You have to purchase an upgradable revenue ticket (W or R subclass) for upgrades using Asia Miles.

milgom May 26, 2016 3:19 pm

Hi,

I'm very confused about the terms and conditions when upgrading a British Airways flight with Asia Miles. I see that "Mixed class and mixed carrier awards do not apply to class upgrades and companion tickets."

What happen if I book for example CDG-HND as a return ticket in premium economy. Because the segment CDG-LHR doesn't have a premium economy, so the fare class for that segment is K. However the LHR-HND and HND-LHR fare class is T (which is upgradable for british airways according to https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts).

In that case is the ticket considered mixed class and cannot be upgraded? It seems a bit stupid since it's impossible to book a non mixed class on that trip.

cxfan1960 May 26, 2016 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by milgom (Post 26686584)
Hi,

I'm very confused about the terms and conditions when upgrading a British Airways flight with Asia Miles. I see that "Mixed class and mixed carrier awards do not apply to class upgrades and companion tickets."

What happen if I book for example CDG-HND as a return ticket in premium economy. Because the segment CDG-LHR doesn't have a premium economy, so the fare class for that segment is K. However the LHR-HND and HND-LHR fare class is T (which is upgradable for british airways according to https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts).

In that case is the ticket considered mixed class and cannot be upgraded? It seems a bit stupid since it's impossible to book a non mixed class on that trip.

That also applies for CX and KA own flights, not just BA. I guess they figure nobody wants to upgrade a regional or short haul to business and pay for the economy to business upgrade for the entire region/short haul + long haul journey anyway. Or they feel it is too complicated to publish a chart for it.

Anyway, I think K on BA is not upgradable.

milgom May 26, 2016 5:54 pm

Thanks cxfan1960 for your reply. Yes but in that case would the T segments (LHR-HND) be upgradable or would they not be upgradable because the entire flight is mixed class?

If those two segments are upgradable then I'm already more than happy enough. Having economy on the first short haul flights is not a problem.


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