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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?
The short answer is no.
Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.
There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.
If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?
Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.
How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.
The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?
Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.
What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?
It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.
Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?
Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades
I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?
As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.
How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?
If you already have issued your original ticket:
If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
The short answer is no.
Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.
There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.
If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?
Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.
How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.
The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
- VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
- CX Diamond Plus
- CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
- CX Gold
- CX management staff on travel duty
- oneworld Emerald
- CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
- oneworld Sapphire
- CX Silver
- oneworld Ruby
- CX Green
- Asia Miles
- Non status
I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?
Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.
What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?
It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.
Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?
Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades
I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?
As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.
How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?
If you already have issued your original ticket:
- Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
- If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
- If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
- In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.
If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
- Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
- Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
- Put the booking on hold.
- Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
- Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
- Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
- In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.
If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
The Ultimate Upgrade Question thread
#301
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Singapore
Programs: BA Gold, HH Gold, IHG Diamond Elite
Posts: 102
Just joined CX Green a week ago, got upgraded on the red-eye SIN-HKG CX714 2 days back. Simply asked at counter if an upgrade was possible and was told flight was overbooked and handed me a J BP!
#302


Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: DCA, ORD, DFW
Posts: 44

Thanks!
#303


Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: DCA, ORD, DFW
Posts: 44
#304
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
There is almost zero chance of a W->J op-up.
#305
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: CX DM, SPG Pt, Le Club Accor GO, Shangri-La GC Jade
Posts: 1,327
08 Sep HKG-LHR:
CX 255 F1 A2 J6 C1 D4 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H7 K2 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 257 J6 C0 D3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 239 J3 C1 D2 I0 W2 R3 E1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L7 V1 S1 N0 Q0 O0
CX 253 F1 A2 J9 C6 D8 I3 W2 R2 E0 Y9 B7 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 251 F0 A0 J4 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
13 Sep LHR-HKG:
CX 252 F1 A3 J7 C0 D2 I0 W0 R1 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N4 Q3 O0
CX 238 J1 C0 D0 I0 W0 R1 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX 250 F0 A1 J3 C0 D0 I0 W2 R3 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX 256 J4 C0 D2 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N7 Q6 O3
CX 254 F0 A1 J0 C0 D0 I0 W3 R5 E1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
With only F1 and F0 for the flights, yes, too ideal
CX 255 F1 A2 J6 C1 D4 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H7 K2 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 257 J6 C0 D3 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 239 J3 C1 D2 I0 W2 R3 E1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L7 V1 S1 N0 Q0 O0
CX 253 F1 A2 J9 C6 D8 I3 W2 R2 E0 Y9 B7 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
CX 251 F0 A0 J4 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
13 Sep LHR-HKG:
CX 252 F1 A3 J7 C0 D2 I0 W0 R1 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N4 Q3 O0
CX 238 J1 C0 D0 I0 W0 R1 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX 250 F0 A1 J3 C0 D0 I0 W2 R3 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
CX 256 J4 C0 D2 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N7 Q6 O3
CX 254 F0 A1 J0 C0 D0 I0 W3 R5 E1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9
With only F1 and F0 for the flights, yes, too ideal


Saw at least one other appreciation card upgrade BP during boarding but no idea it's to T, U or ZFor return sector... Struggled till boarding still no U opening (nor even an aisle seat in PEY......
) ISM said 2 J seats were malfunction, but even that 2 seats were functioning it's still full (not verifiable so whatever she said must be "true"...)
Last edited by sscywong; Sep 19, 2015 at 10:43 am
#307

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Plat Pro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 157
CX884
Quick question for the CX pro's..
Booked on CX 897 and 884 in PE (R class) for October travel. Upgraded the outbound day after booking, while waitlisted for the inbound. CX884 appears to be operated with the 77G which appears to have the lower density J cabin (40 seats vs. 53 on the 77H, per seatguru).
Wondering if the smaller J cabin reduces the likelihood of clearing the waitlist. Flight is on a Wednesday, if that matters.
Booked on CX 897 and 884 in PE (R class) for October travel. Upgraded the outbound day after booking, while waitlisted for the inbound. CX884 appears to be operated with the 77G which appears to have the lower density J cabin (40 seats vs. 53 on the 77H, per seatguru).
Wondering if the smaller J cabin reduces the likelihood of clearing the waitlist. Flight is on a Wednesday, if that matters.
#308
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
Quick question for the CX pro's..
Booked on CX 897 and 884 in PE (R class) for October travel. Upgraded the outbound day after booking, while waitlisted for the inbound. CX884 appears to be operated with the 77G which appears to have the lower density J cabin (40 seats vs. 53 on the 77H, per seatguru).
Wondering if the smaller J cabin reduces the likelihood of clearing the waitlist. Flight is on a Wednesday, if that matters.
Booked on CX 897 and 884 in PE (R class) for October travel. Upgraded the outbound day after booking, while waitlisted for the inbound. CX884 appears to be operated with the 77G which appears to have the lower density J cabin (40 seats vs. 53 on the 77H, per seatguru).
Wondering if the smaller J cabin reduces the likelihood of clearing the waitlist. Flight is on a Wednesday, if that matters.
Are you flexible to pick a different return date or flight?
#309

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Plat Pro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 157
Thanks for the reply cxfan1960. Not flexible with the return date but can take any of the 4 daily flights. This is what prompted the thought that the 77G is less likely to clear waitlist, given the lower J capacity.
Could you clarify "(DM vs SL)"
Could you clarify "(DM vs SL)"
#310
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
It may seem that availability should be higher for 77H because there are more J seats, but CX may already have put 77H at a time slot preferred by their J passengers.
#311

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Plat Pro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 157
#312




Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: UA 1K, Delta Diamond, AA Gold
Posts: 43
I am so grateful for this thread. Just discovered it.
Two questions for a Newbie...
1. If your waitlist upgrade doesn't clear four days out, can you still try to upgrade using miles at the airport?
2. Can some one show me loads for cx807 (ord-hkg) on 17OCT and cx872 (hkg-sfo) on 20OCT. We are trying to upgrade from Paid Business (I) to First (Z?)? Would be so interested in the loads.
Thanks!
Two questions for a Newbie...
1. If your waitlist upgrade doesn't clear four days out, can you still try to upgrade using miles at the airport?
2. Can some one show me loads for cx807 (ord-hkg) on 17OCT and cx872 (hkg-sfo) on 20OCT. We are trying to upgrade from Paid Business (I) to First (Z?)? Would be so interested in the loads.
Thanks!
#313
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau




Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 22,134
17/10/15 15:30 HKG
18/10/15 20:20 77W
Daily
35% / 52m F5A5J9C9D9I5W9R9E5Y9B9H9K9M9L9V9S0N0Q0O0
CX 872 0 HKG
20/10/15 0:30 SFO
19/10/15 22:15 77W
Daily
26% / 48m F5A5J9C9D9I9W9R9E9Y9B9H9K9M9L9V9S9N9Q9O9
#314
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
There is one more requirement if the passenger is not using his/her own miles. In addition to the passenger being on the Asia Miles sponsor's redemption list, both the passenger and his/her sponsor must be on the same flight.
#315

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Plat Pro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Ambassador, Hilton Gold
Posts: 157
If this is the case it would be entirely contrary to the conversation I had with the CX phone rep. My undertanding was that in order to process an instant upgrade, the passeneger needed to have the sponsor's information i.e. address, DOB, etc. but no mention of the sposnor needing to travel on the same flight.



