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Old Oct 29, 2013, 4:27 am
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Is it possible to buy a (cheap) upgrade on Cathay Pacific upon check-in?

The short answer is no.

Cathay, as a general rule, does not allow you to purchase last minute upgrades if there are empty seats in Y+, J or F. The only way to upgrade a ticket is to pay the fare difference between your current ticket, and an available fare class in the higher cabins. Note that if your current ticket has restrictions (cancellation fees, non-refundable) these still apply.

There are been stories of people who have been offered cheap upgrades by Cathay, but this is more an exception than a common occurrence.


If I upgrade my ticket using asia miles, do I still earn miles?

Yes, you will earn miles for the original fare class that you booked, not the upgraded cabin.

How do I get a free upgrade / operational upgrade (op-up)?
Cathay Pacific does not upgrade passengers just because there are empty seats in higher classes. Upgrades will only occur where there is overbooking in lower classes.

The order of upgrades when required is believed to be:
  1. VIP (Heads of State, Government Bodies, or Canto Pop/Movie stars)
  2. CX Diamond Plus
  3. CX Diamond Invitation, Diamond
  4. CX Gold
  5. CX management staff on travel duty
  6. oneworld Emerald
  7. CX staff on duty nominees , other airline staff nominees, CX staff on personal travel
  8. oneworld Sapphire
  9. CX Silver
  10. oneworld Ruby
  11. CX Green
  12. Asia Miles
  13. Non status
In the event of a tiebreak being needed, generally those with lower "Boarding Numbers" will take precedence (lower BN takes priority). The earlier you check in, the lower your BN. Asking for an upgrade at check-in will not work, so don't. This is definitely one case of where "if you don't ask, you don't get", does NOT apply. The amount you paid for your ticket or the fare class of your ticket does not appear to affect your upgrade chances.


I am travelling on an award ticket. Will I still be considered for a free upgrade?

Yes - there are many stories of passengers on award tickets, or who upgraded a class using miles, getting (additional) upgrades.



What happens if the aircraft has 4 or 3 cabins, but is only selling Business and Economy seats?

It is likely if you have Marco Polo status, and to a lesser extent oneworld status, you may be able to sit in either First Class seats (if booked in J) or Premium Economy (if booked in Y) with service of the original cabin. There doesn't appear to be consistency yet as to how these semi-upgrades are allocated. Some people have been able to choose seats in the higher cabin during online check-in, or some will get them on request at check-in. However, there is no entitlement to these seats.


Will I get an upgrade on my Birthday, or for my membership anniversary, or for reaching xx number of lifetime club miles?

Please see this link for members' experience with these kinds of upgrades: Marco Polo Anniversary Upgrades


I want to use Asia Miles to upgrade a BA flight. How do I do this?

As of 22 June 2018, it is no longer possible to upgrade BA flights with Asia Miles.


How do I upgrade a CX flight using miles?

If you already have issued your original ticket:
  1. Try upgrading using Manage My Booking on the website (not always successful)
  2. If self-service doesn't work, try calling Marco Polo hotline to check availability
  3. If there is availability, you will need to issue the upgrade immediately to secure it. They may give you a few days grace before isssuing the upgrade, but this is now rarely given.
  4. In a few days, or longer if they are busy, your miles will be deducted, and you will be emailed a new e-ticket with the upgrade class details on it, and your online booking for your original booking class will disappear.

If you have not made any booking yet, and you want to check availability:
  1. Call Marco Polo club to check for availability on the flights/dates you want, or check for normal redemption availability on the website.
  2. Book a revenue ticket in the class of service for which you will be paying. Do NOT do this via the website -- call a CX telephone sales number/travel agent.
  3. Put the booking on hold.
  4. Call the Marco Polo/Asia Miles Service Center. Have them book the upgrade and give you a deadline to have the ticket issued. (It's usually about 72 hours).
  5. Have telephone sales/travel agent issue your revenue ticket.
  6. Call Marco Polo/Asia Miles back. Give them the revenue ticket number against the PNR and ask them to issue your upgrade.
  7. In about two or three days, you'll get a new ticket with the upgrade showing.

If you don't receive a new e-ticket before departure, call up Marco Polo club to double check if the upgrade has been issued.
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Old Apr 3, 2015 | 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by kgkg
Hi everyone, I am newbie to Cathy. I will fly NYC-HKG-SGN RT in July. My company only reimburse the cheapest economy, and it seems that I will have to book into an N class. The flight is less than 10,000 one-way. I have two questions.

(1) can I use 45,000 Asia miles to upgrade to a business seat if I class is available?
(2) Is American Express the only credit card company that can transfer points to Asia miles?

Thank you all again!
(1) I class is already business. You probably meant N. You cannot upgrade from N. For a flight with premium economy, you can only upgrade with economy M class or above to premium economy, and cannot upgrade from economy to business.
(2) There are other credit cards - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...hk-2015-a.html
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 4:28 am
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Also I-fare availability has nothing to do with redemption availability.
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 9:33 pm
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
(1) I class is already business. You probably meant N. You cannot upgrade from N. For a flight with premium economy, you can only upgrade with economy M class or above to premium economy, and cannot upgrade from economy to business.
(2) There are other credit cards - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...hk-2015-a.html
Thanks so much. I will book in the N class. Good to know that N class is not upgradeable to business.
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 11:35 am
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N-fare also only earns 25% miles on CX if you're crediting to MPO/AM.
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 5:32 pm
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Hey guys, I'm currently on the CX 255 flight (12.35am) on 13 April and booked into booking class K for the economy ticket. .

I was looking to upgrade myself with points to PE+ yesterday but now those seats are gone, and appeared only have 3 J seats available on the flight.

Flight stats are as follow:

F0 A0 J2 C0 D1 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0

My question is: Is it worth calling MPC now and waitlist for an upgrade to PE+ ? Then if it goes through, will you guys think I'll even have a chance for being upgraded to J if I do obtain the first 10 check-in number (BN or SEC as you call it as it still confuses me the whole time!) and being a CX Gold?

Or, I hold on to what I've now, check-in early and hopefully with my status, I might score an upgrade to PE+ ?

I want to know my chances of being upgraded. Thank you, I really value all of your advice!
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Old Apr 9, 2015 | 6:57 pm
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Does OWS really have an edge over CX Silver? I am debating whether to jump ship to AA's or CX's FFP and my travel patterns will prolly get me with these 2 respective tiers (AA Plat for the former), assuming they don't get significantly harder to achieve. My most frequented routes are HKG-TPE-HKG and HKG-ORD/YYZ/NYC-HKG in E, B or H farecode. Just asking about CX opups.
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Old Apr 10, 2015 | 11:02 am
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In case that an op-up is required on a flight, would checking-in in HKG or checking-in in Airport Express stations makes a difference on my chance of getting an upgrade?
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by brianho4489
In case that an op-up is required on a flight, would checking-in in HKG or checking-in in Airport Express stations makes a difference on my chance of getting an upgrade?
Nope.
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 10:38 pm
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Once you received the confirmed for the upgrade, do you have to call MPC to issue the ticket?
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 10:59 pm
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Once you received the confirmed for the upgrade, do you have to call MPC to issue the ticket?
Yes, before the upgrade deadline expires.
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Old Apr 12, 2015 | 11:25 pm
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Okay thanks, the email was a one liner and didn't give specific instructions.
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 4:37 am
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Not sure if this is the right place but I booked a trip from HKG to ZRH in PEY and have confirmed a miles upgrade to J. When I check the booking record on the web under "manage my booking", the system says I won't earn any miles for the trip. Is this true or would I expect to earn the mileage for the class I booked (PEY)?
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 5:48 am
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You still earn PEY miles.
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 7:17 am
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If your miles don't post in a week, submit a request with your original booking class and ticket number (not the one with the upgrade). The system is sometimes too stupid to see that your underlying booking is a paid ticket and it has to be done manually.


I say sometimes because I've had instances where they post, and instances where they require manual intervention.
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 3:20 am
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Best Bet to fly Business on CX

What's the best move with respect to securing a one-way business class ticket on CX out of LAX to HKG?

1) Buy an R or above economy fare and upgrade at the airport for 20k AsiaMiles?

2) Buy the cheapest economy fare (E) and upgrade at the airport for 20k AsiaMiles?

3) Keep trying to book CS award (wait-listed) even though there are 15+ seats available on that date?

My MP status is Green so not gonna get much action from CX, but trying to figure out how to secure a business ticket at least 3-4 days prior to departure (4/25)

Thanks!
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