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Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 18963968)
This is not just because of the superior medical facilities. This is because the babies born in HKG would then gain the "permanent residency" status - although that is still up to debate and interpretation of the "Basic Laws" but there is already a court-ruled precedent to grant the status to a teenager that was born years ago in HKG and then lived between China and HKG while growing up...
The tactic these pregnant women employed is downright scary - harmful to themselves and their babies, as well as draining the emergency medical services of HKG public hospitals, police and medics stationed at the borders... |
Originally Posted by livetutravel
(Post 18953747)
Try BA for a day and you will immediately know racism is not yet dead in this world. For non-white and non-Indian people like me, it is always a complete lower-class experience on BA. Many times, I tried to return to my seat from bathroom and somehow the BA FAs would come and police the policy of 'going back to your cabin'. I need to show my J BP to prove I am a J passenger returning to my J seat after using the J bathroom. Never an apology for the annoyance.
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Originally Posted by sxc
(Post 18959404)
You know what? CX crew do discriminate. They discriminate against passengers that give them nothing back. They discriminate against passengers who don't give them a motivation to serve. They discriminate against passengers who treat them badly.
I smile to the people who serve me, am always pleasant, give them compliments and thank yous and guess what....I get good service in return. I think its how one act as a passenger more than which ethnicity you belong to. I've seen a lot of rude passengers in premium cabins and there are times when I want to stand up and shut them up myself. During a flight when I had a chance to chat up with the ISM and some of the crew in the forward galley, the ISM told me that she has been telling her girls to know when to stand up for themselves. She says that generally they will have to try to be as nice and polite to passengers but there are some passengers who are just plain obnoxious and rude so they need to know how to defend themselves. |
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 18961928)
As for mainlanders, I can tell you why animosity exist. It's their habits. I've seen it in Hong Kong, I've seen it in US (an increase of mainland immigrants). Their habits is just not Western acceptable. Spitting, littering, general lack of respect for queues etc.
In Hong Kong, there's seems to be a competition for resources. Just read an article recently about how mainlander pregnant women would cross the border to deliver in HK hospitals due to superior medical facilities. This leaves HK women with longer waits etc. Does every mainlander exhibit such traits? No, but enough do. Just the other day, I was driving in a NYC chinese neighborhood (predominately mainlanders) yielding as I was making a turn to a fairly good-looking woman crossing with her male companion speaking Mandarin. While crossing, she decides to hack one up and spit right in the middle off the crosswalk. She just looked at me as if nothing happened. Any positive impressions I had of her disappear right then and there. |
Originally Posted by phol
(Post 18966127)
I dont think you can attempt to validate your prejudice - Hong Kong Chinese are just as bad as the mainlanders in other ways.
*waiting for a 10000 word thesis*
Originally Posted by BingBongBoy
(Post 18964556)
WOW... I have never been branded a racist before... Nice to see you like to tar 12,000 people with the same brush... :td:
I believe the mods may have to step in here a bit since it's getting a bit off hand, with some individual categorically commenting on a Mod's comment - that would make mods hard to work on things (or would it?)?!?!?! |
Originally Posted by phol
(Post 18966127)
I dont think you can attempt to validate your prejudice - Hong Kong Chinese are just as bad as the mainlanders in other ways.
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Originally Posted by kaka
(Post 18966139)
please explain.
*waiting for a 10000 word thesis* |
Originally Posted by sxc
(Post 18952978)
Is that a can opener I hear?
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Originally Posted by kaka
(Post 18966139)
please explain.
*waiting for a 10000 word thesis* |
Originally Posted by Happy
(Post 18963968)
...the babies born in HKG would then gain the "permanent residency" status...
I can understand why HKers are worried - in '05 my 1st trip to Beijing and Shanghai was an eye opener - mainlanders who had a little money (not affluent by any means) walked around like they owned the city and could boss anyone around. This wasn't a one off event; this was the norm. Sad and scary. I've gone back at least twice every year since - can only say it's getting worse, not better. As a Caucasian (and OW elite) I get treated very well by the CX staff. But I also go out of my way to treat the staff with respect - I fully realize how blessed I am to have an executive position and never had to work in the service industry. To the OP: I think you need to a) get your Chinese co-worker to work on his English ASAP - it is the International Business Language after all; b) tell him to smile and be very humble. He'll be ok. |
Originally Posted by phol
(Post 18966127)
I dont think you can attempt to validate your prejudice - Hong Kong Chinese are just as bad as the mainlanders in other ways.
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Originally Posted by West Coast Ace
(Post 18966344)
In America, they're called Anchor Babies. Some of us are distressed about it; others see future voters...
I've heard this joke more than once: Mexicans love to live in California because it is a great place to live and very close to the United States! |
Originally Posted by livetutravel
(Post 18953747)
Try BA for a day and you will immediately know racism is not yet dead in this world. For non-white and non-Indian people like me, it is always a complete lower-class experience on BA. Many times, I tried to return to my seat from bathroom and somehow the BA FAs would come and police the policy of 'going back to your cabin'. I need to show my J BP to prove I am a J passenger returning to my J seat after using the J bathroom. Never an apology for the annoyance.
if i were you i would go "May i kindly offer you my passport to double check my ID do match the boarding pass?" and at the end "apology accepted and thank you very much (for doing your job)" (in this case the FA did not offer one). roll my eyes!! (after the FA walked away).:mad: |
generally speaking if you are nice to the FAs, they would be nice to you. dont forget "please" and "thank you" and the occasional eye contact.
speaking good english (so the FA can understand you) + well dressed (tidy and clean) + well behaved = you should have no problem with (most) airlines. i have seen many many rude pax in premium cabin and yes do want to slap them! (white or asian travel on white/western or asian airlines) perhaps sitting in the front row may help you not seeing any other pax getting the "special treatment" :p |
Originally Posted by JALPak
(Post 18959705)
I was just disagreeing with cxfan1960's generalization of HK people fly a lot on CX/KA and many have MPC status.
If you said many HKers are AM members, it will be true. But for MPC, it may be a doubt: 1. HKers will not pay USD$50 unless it is worthy. 2. Personally, I don't think the annual fee for AMEX CX HK will be waived in on-going basis by meeting spending as it is rare for airlines card annual fee to be waived. So how many people become MPC GR because of that card? Not too many. (AFAIK - they will prefer DBS Black Card instead for more miles). 3. Most people who get MPC (historically) are the true frequent flyers.
Originally Posted by CX HK
(Post 18959690)
Haven't been to Canada in a long time - but last I heard, it still is very predominantly Cantonese speakers / HKers there.
Originally Posted by phol
(Post 18959709)
Agreed. Im actually English, not Chinese, and it's still very easy to tell the difference and the animosity between the two.
Originally Posted by kaka
(Post 18966139)
please explain.
*waiting for a 10000 word thesis* |
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