Paying duty with nexus arriving back into YYZ
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Paying duty with nexus arriving back into YYZ
A few weeks ago, we came back from Milan via YYZ on an AC flight, and we had to pay duty. We both have nexus. We were directed to the long secondary screening line - it took about 45 minutes to get to the customs officer. No problems with the customer officer -that took no more than a few moments - he just calculated the duty and he directed us to the cashier.
In the past, we have come to Canada directly via YOW or via YVR and we have had to pay duty - the cashier is in the main hall, so we go there, pay the duty, and then are allowed to depart the customs hall with our luggage. (I have never had to pay duty when arriving in Canada at YUL - so I do not know what would happen there).
So it is advantageous, especially if one has nexus, and if one has to pay duty to the cashier, that one not come via YYZ - if waiting in line is a major issue.
PS-fortunately, I had not booked the first connecting flight from YYZ to YOW, or I would have missed that flight; unfortunately, with our flight from MXP arriving 30 min early, we could have connected on that earlier YYZ-YOW flight, with the help of the YYZ concierge - if not for our delay in standing in the secondary screening line for 45+ minutes.
In the past, we have come to Canada directly via YOW or via YVR and we have had to pay duty - the cashier is in the main hall, so we go there, pay the duty, and then are allowed to depart the customs hall with our luggage. (I have never had to pay duty when arriving in Canada at YUL - so I do not know what would happen there).
So it is advantageous, especially if one has nexus, and if one has to pay duty to the cashier, that one not come via YYZ - if waiting in line is a major issue.
PS-fortunately, I had not booked the first connecting flight from YYZ to YOW, or I would have missed that flight; unfortunately, with our flight from MXP arriving 30 min early, we could have connected on that earlier YYZ-YOW flight, with the help of the YYZ concierge - if not for our delay in standing in the secondary screening line for 45+ minutes.
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A few weeks ago, we came back from Milan via YYZ on an AC flight, and we had to pay duty. We both have nexus. We were directed to the long secondary screening line - it took about 45 minutes to get to the customs officer. No problems with the customer officer -that took no more than a few moments - he just calculated the duty and he directed us to the cashier.
In the past, we have come to Canada directly via YOW or via YVR and we have had to pay duty - the cashier is in the main hall, so we go there, pay the duty, and then are allowed to depart the customs hall with our luggage. (I have never had to pay duty when arriving in Canada at YUL - so I do not know what would happen there).
So it is advantageous, especially if one has nexus, and if one has to pay duty to the cashier, that one not come via YYZ - if waiting in line is a major issue.
PS-fortunately, I had not booked the first connecting flight from YYZ to YOW, or I would have missed that flight; unfortunately, with our flight from MXP arriving 30 min early, we could have connected on that earlier YYZ-YOW flight, with the help of the YYZ concierge - if not for our delay in standing in the secondary screening line for 45+ minutes.
In the past, we have come to Canada directly via YOW or via YVR and we have had to pay duty - the cashier is in the main hall, so we go there, pay the duty, and then are allowed to depart the customs hall with our luggage. (I have never had to pay duty when arriving in Canada at YUL - so I do not know what would happen there).
So it is advantageous, especially if one has nexus, and if one has to pay duty to the cashier, that one not come via YYZ - if waiting in line is a major issue.
PS-fortunately, I had not booked the first connecting flight from YYZ to YOW, or I would have missed that flight; unfortunately, with our flight from MXP arriving 30 min early, we could have connected on that earlier YYZ-YOW flight, with the help of the YYZ concierge - if not for our delay in standing in the secondary screening line for 45+ minutes.
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Having done this in YYZ (and not having serious wait issues, personally) I don't think that this is a fair generalization. I also think that in any entry port, you are at the mercy of timing of other inbound flights and the stringency of CRA requests to see the goods for tariff classification purposes. I have had very long wait times in YVR.
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A few weeks ago, we came back from Milan via YYZ on an AC flight, and we had to pay duty. We both have nexus. We were directed to the long secondary screening line - it took about 45 minutes to get to the customs officer. No problems with the customer officer -that took no more than a few moments - he just calculated the duty and he directed us to the cashier.
In the past, we have come to Canada directly via YOW or via YVR and we have had to pay duty - the cashier is in the main hall, so we go there, pay the duty, and then are allowed to depart the customs hall with our luggage. (I have never had to pay duty when arriving in Canada at YUL - so I do not know what would happen there).
So it is advantageous, especially if one has nexus, and if one has to pay duty to the cashier, that one not come via YYZ - if waiting in line is a major issue.
PS-fortunately, I had not booked the first connecting flight from YYZ to YOW, or I would have missed that flight; unfortunately, with our flight from MXP arriving 30 min early, we could have connected on that earlier YYZ-YOW flight, with the help of the YYZ concierge - if not for our delay in standing in the secondary screening line for 45+ minutes.
In the past, we have come to Canada directly via YOW or via YVR and we have had to pay duty - the cashier is in the main hall, so we go there, pay the duty, and then are allowed to depart the customs hall with our luggage. (I have never had to pay duty when arriving in Canada at YUL - so I do not know what would happen there).
So it is advantageous, especially if one has nexus, and if one has to pay duty to the cashier, that one not come via YYZ - if waiting in line is a major issue.
PS-fortunately, I had not booked the first connecting flight from YYZ to YOW, or I would have missed that flight; unfortunately, with our flight from MXP arriving 30 min early, we could have connected on that earlier YYZ-YOW flight, with the help of the YYZ concierge - if not for our delay in standing in the secondary screening line for 45+ minutes.
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In our case, we were quite a bit over the maximum duty-free amount - I do not think any agent would have let us through without paying duty - nexus or not.
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Just a reminder
From NEXUS Membership Guide - Penalties
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...f5095-eng.html
Please be aware that the following program violations will result in the loss of your NEXUS membership:
........
Using a NEXUS lane for non-program related activities, i.e. if you have commercial goods;
Failure to declare goods, regardless of their value;
Using the NEXUS lane and failing to properly declare goods which have been purchased, received or otherwise acquired if you are a Canadian resident returning to Canada;
Using the NEXUS lane when you are in possession of goods that exceed your personal entitlement if you are a U.S. resident visiting Canada;
Failure to answer questions truthfully at the kiosk;......
From NEXUS Membership Guide - Penalties
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicati...f5095-eng.html
Please be aware that the following program violations will result in the loss of your NEXUS membership:
........
Using a NEXUS lane for non-program related activities, i.e. if you have commercial goods;
Failure to declare goods, regardless of their value;
Using the NEXUS lane and failing to properly declare goods which have been purchased, received or otherwise acquired if you are a Canadian resident returning to Canada;
Using the NEXUS lane when you are in possession of goods that exceed your personal entitlement if you are a U.S. resident visiting Canada;
Failure to answer questions truthfully at the kiosk;......
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Two weeks ago I flew SFO-YUL and brought home 4 pounds of See's Candies (2 pounds dark and 2 pounds milk chocolate for those of you who are curious - but I digress) in my carry-on. On the declaration card, after careful deliberation, I answered YES to the "Do you have food question" (chocolate is a dairy product after all).
It was my first time using my NEXUS card in arrival at a Canadian airport so I understandably wanted to use it. The system works amazing unless you need to go see an agent. Because of my YES answer about the food, I was sent to secondary and its very long line (I did however get the see one of the border guards who is regularly on Border Security - but I digress again).
After 45 minutes, I made it to a customs agent (not the TV celebrity much to my utter disappointment) who was perplexed by why I was in secondary in the first place. She spied my carry-on and said "Is that the only baggage you have? - and waved me out and on my way.
Next time I will stand in line to see an agent and not use my NEXUS card - or I will forget about the chocolate.
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I visited the Blaine duty free shop returning from Canada a few weeks ago. They were very clear that I should not go over my limits and use the NEXUS lane.
Previously, I've gone south through other crossings with many cases of wine with just a wave through.
The point about never going over as a US returning visitor was not something I was aware of until now! And I thought I'd read all of the documentation.
Previously, I've gone south through other crossings with many cases of wine with just a wave through.
The point about never going over as a US returning visitor was not something I was aware of until now! And I thought I'd read all of the documentation.
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The car crossing (Blaine) is very different from NEXUS at airports. The Blaine crossing is verbal declaration whereas the airport is a specific Q at the kiosk asking if you went over. There is no leeway at a kiosk.
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Boy did I ever learn that lesson the hard way.
Two weeks ago I flew SFO-YUL and brought home 4 pounds of See's Candies (2 pounds dark and 2 pounds milk chocolate for those of you who are curious - but I digress) in my carry-on. On the declaration card, after careful deliberation, I answered YES to the "Do you have food question" (chocolate is a dairy product after all).
It was my first time using my NEXUS card in arrival at a Canadian airport so I understandably wanted to use it. The system works amazing unless you need to go see an agent. Because of my YES answer about the food, I was sent to secondary and its very long line (I did however get the see one of the border guards who is regularly on Border Security - but I digress again).
After 45 minutes, I made it to a customs agent (not the TV celebrity much to my utter disappointment) who was perplexed by why I was in secondary in the first place. She spied my carry-on and said "Is that the only baggage you have? - and waved me out and on my way.
Next time I will stand in line to see an agent and not use my NEXUS card - or I will forget about the chocolate.
Two weeks ago I flew SFO-YUL and brought home 4 pounds of See's Candies (2 pounds dark and 2 pounds milk chocolate for those of you who are curious - but I digress) in my carry-on. On the declaration card, after careful deliberation, I answered YES to the "Do you have food question" (chocolate is a dairy product after all).
It was my first time using my NEXUS card in arrival at a Canadian airport so I understandably wanted to use it. The system works amazing unless you need to go see an agent. Because of my YES answer about the food, I was sent to secondary and its very long line (I did however get the see one of the border guards who is regularly on Border Security - but I digress again).
After 45 minutes, I made it to a customs agent (not the TV celebrity much to my utter disappointment) who was perplexed by why I was in secondary in the first place. She spied my carry-on and said "Is that the only baggage you have? - and waved me out and on my way.
Next time I will stand in line to see an agent and not use my NEXUS card - or I will forget about the chocolate.
Also, curious if YVR is set up different from YUL for food stuff. Instead of going to "real" secondary, at YVR there appears to be a special food/agriculture(?) area which was pretty dead. Had to surrender some fricken awesome beef/pork jerky from Macau once. But that time I think we went initially to an agent because the Nexus machines were down.
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Likely poor discretion on the initial agent's part. I think one time I was coming back from Hawaii with macadamia nuts and declared yes for food and the agent taking at my card before exiting saw I had marked food and just asked what food I was bringing back. After saying it was macadamia nuts, he just laughed it off and sent me on my way.
Also, curious if YVR is set up different from YUL for food stuff. Instead of going to "real" secondary, at YVR there appears to be a special food/agriculture(?) area which was pretty dead. Had to surrender some fricken awesome beef/pork jerky from Macau once. But that time I think we went initially to an agent because the Nexus machines were down.
Also, curious if YVR is set up different from YUL for food stuff. Instead of going to "real" secondary, at YVR there appears to be a special food/agriculture(?) area which was pretty dead. Had to surrender some fricken awesome beef/pork jerky from Macau once. But that time I think we went initially to an agent because the Nexus machines were down.
NEXUS holder should feel lucky if they are caught with illegal importation and not lose their NEXUS priviledges
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Boy did I ever learn that lesson the hard way.
Two weeks ago I flew SFO-YUL and brought home 4 pounds of See's Candies (2 pounds dark and 2 pounds milk chocolate for those of you who are curious - but I digress) in my carry-on. On the declaration card, after careful deliberation, I answered YES to the "Do you have food question" (chocolate is a dairy product after all).
It was my first time using my NEXUS card in arrival at a Canadian airport so I understandably wanted to use it. The system works amazing unless you need to go see an agent. Because of my YES answer about the food, I was sent to secondary and its very long line (I did however get the see one of the border guards who is regularly on Border Security - but I digress again).
After 45 minutes, I made it to a customs agent (not the TV celebrity much to my utter disappointment) who was perplexed by why I was in secondary in the first place. She spied my carry-on and said "Is that the only baggage you have? - and waved me out and on my way.
Next time I will stand in line to see an agent and not use my NEXUS card - or I will forget about the chocolate.
Two weeks ago I flew SFO-YUL and brought home 4 pounds of See's Candies (2 pounds dark and 2 pounds milk chocolate for those of you who are curious - but I digress) in my carry-on. On the declaration card, after careful deliberation, I answered YES to the "Do you have food question" (chocolate is a dairy product after all).
It was my first time using my NEXUS card in arrival at a Canadian airport so I understandably wanted to use it. The system works amazing unless you need to go see an agent. Because of my YES answer about the food, I was sent to secondary and its very long line (I did however get the see one of the border guards who is regularly on Border Security - but I digress again).
After 45 minutes, I made it to a customs agent (not the TV celebrity much to my utter disappointment) who was perplexed by why I was in secondary in the first place. She spied my carry-on and said "Is that the only baggage you have? - and waved me out and on my way.
Next time I will stand in line to see an agent and not use my NEXUS card - or I will forget about the chocolate.
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So if you find yourself in a packed customs hall and the only think you have to declare is that you've busted your allowance, use the kiosk, get the receipt with the $ symbol and try your luck with the cashier. At the very worst, you saved yourself a whole lot of waiting in line.
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While it's true that primary inspection agents will sometimes waive the duty amount, I don't agree with your advice. Answering "yes" to being over your duty allowance at a Nexus kiosk prints a dollar sign symbol on your receipt and directs you to the cashier. It does not automatically direct you to secondary unless you were randomly selected to go to secondary regardless of how you answered the kiosk's questions. And remember, the cashier also has the ability to waive duties.
So if you find yourself in a packed customs hall and the only think you have to declare is that you've busted your allowance, use the kiosk, get the receipt with the $ symbol and try your luck with the cashier. At the very worst, you saved yourself a whole lot of waiting in line.
So if you find yourself in a packed customs hall and the only think you have to declare is that you've busted your allowance, use the kiosk, get the receipt with the $ symbol and try your luck with the cashier. At the very worst, you saved yourself a whole lot of waiting in line.