Crosswalks - Stop for Pedestrians or Risk a Ticket
Jul 11, 2003, 9:30 am
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Crosswalks - Stop for Pedestrians or Risk a Ticket
Just an fyi since the car rental agencies don't tell you - pedestrians have the right-of-way at crosswalks in California. You must stop for them or rick getting a ticket.
If there's a cross-walk at a signal light, the light dictates (ie, red, green) who has the right-of-way, but for non-light crosswalks if there's a pedestrian at or in the crosswalk you need to stop.
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Sharon
If there's a cross-walk at a signal light, the light dictates (ie, red, green) who has the right-of-way, but for non-light crosswalks if there's a pedestrian at or in the crosswalk you need to stop.
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Jul 11, 2003, 11:05 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">If there's a cross-walk at a signal light, the light dictates (ie, red, green) who has the right-of-way</font>
I remember seeing this in a California DMV handbook some time ago:
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">REMEMBER: The pedestrian ALWAYS has the right-of-way.</font>
Jul 11, 2003, 11:50 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by obscure2k:
This law is strictly enforced in Santa Monica, particularly on Montana Avenue.</font>
This law is strictly enforced in Santa Monica, particularly on Montana Avenue.</font>
edited to add -
The real dangerous places are some of the really wide (two or more lanes in each direction) streets that exist in places like the San Fernando Valley. LAPD does a sting on the holidays; they dress an undercover cop in a Santa suit or like the Easter Bunny and crosses the road. He/she signals units standing by for any motorist that doesn't give the right of way. Makes for fun viewing on the morning news...
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Jul 11, 2003, 5:48 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Also true on Brand Blvd. in the city of Glendale...</font>
Oooh. Oooh. He's not stopping. He's not stopping. He went right by! There they go! BUSTED!
Jul 14, 2003, 10:15 am
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What I find interesting is that Calif drivers know they have to stop for a ped in a crosswalk & will come to a screeching halt.
But 2-3 cars will regularly blow through a red light right after it's changed! Whether pedestrian or car I always look when lights have changed to make sure no one's running it.
But since I've heard out of towners say hey, someone crosses in my (fill in the blank city) they get run over, a # of times from out of towners & because the car rental agencies don't tell them about the law here, thought I'd give a heads up.
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But 2-3 cars will regularly blow through a red light right after it's changed! Whether pedestrian or car I always look when lights have changed to make sure no one's running it.
But since I've heard out of towners say hey, someone crosses in my (fill in the blank city) they get run over, a # of times from out of towners & because the car rental agencies don't tell them about the law here, thought I'd give a heads up.
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Sharon
Jul 14, 2003, 12:10 pm
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It's actually illegal in California for a motorist to begin driving before the pedestrian steps onto the curb on the otherside of the roadway. Granted this is a little ridiculous on a four-lane roadway, but it is the law. Most police tend to look the other way on this so long as the pedestrian is well clear of the car.
There's a group in San Francisco that goes around spraypainting outlines of bodies on roadways where pedestrians have been hit and killed. A pretty blunt reminder to be careful when you see one. The city doesn't sanction these and usually spray paints over them within a couple of days.
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There's a group in San Francisco that goes around spraypainting outlines of bodies on roadways where pedestrians have been hit and killed. A pretty blunt reminder to be careful when you see one. The city doesn't sanction these and usually spray paints over them within a couple of days.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by obscure2k:
This law is strictly enforced in Santa Monica, particularly on Montana Avenue.</font>
This law is strictly enforced in Santa Monica, particularly on Montana Avenue.</font>
Every time I visit, like, New York, it's just... A different universe out there.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by aaronma:
Three blocks from where I live. Be warned! Santa Monica must be the most pedestrian friendly city IN THE WORLD! Extra-Bright traffic lights, and those new little lights on the road itself when people are crossing crosswalks.</font>
Three blocks from where I live. Be warned! Santa Monica must be the most pedestrian friendly city IN THE WORLD! Extra-Bright traffic lights, and those new little lights on the road itself when people are crossing crosswalks.</font>
I would suggest Hamburg or Amsterdam Jan
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In US , maybe. In the world - no way
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by aaronma:
Three blocks from where I live. Be warned! Santa Monica must be the most pedestrian friendly city IN THE WORLD! Extra-Bright traffic lights, and those new little lights on the road itself when people are crossing crosswalks.
Every time I visit, like, New York, it's just... A different universe out there.</font>
Three blocks from where I live. Be warned! Santa Monica must be the most pedestrian friendly city IN THE WORLD! Extra-Bright traffic lights, and those new little lights on the road itself when people are crossing crosswalks.
Every time I visit, like, New York, it's just... A different universe out there.</font>