Hotels, Eating, Drinking and Consumer Goods still so much cheaper in America!
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From a budget traveler perspective I am constantly shocked how much cheaper it is to travel within America than outside our country. I have talked to people who say that it costs twice as much to eat, sleep, drink and make general purchases in most countries than in America.
There is a dark side to bargains as well. I wish it was all due to efficient production and distribution. But from illegal farm workers to grocery store labor to bus boys and wait staff at restaurant, it is all based on other people's misery. They skip on decent housing, healthcare, children's education etc, so we can get bargains. All in all, not a good situation.
I am much happier to pay the asking price for food in Scandinavia when I am visiting there.
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From a budget traveler perspective I am constantly shocked how much cheaper it is to travel within America than outside our country. I have talked to people who say that it costs twice as much to eat, sleep, drink and make general purchases in most countries than in America.
Is there anywhere in the world that a equal quality meal or hotel or consumer goods purchase will actually cost less than a similar town in America?
Is there anywhere in the world that a equal quality meal or hotel or consumer goods purchase will actually cost less than a similar town in America?
Are you taking purchasing power parity into account or straight dollar for dollar value?
If I think about my travel the last few years, I would say the following qualify: Panama, Thailand, Kenya, Turkey, Morocco, Greece, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Reunion, Ecuador, South Korea, Peru, Spain, Bangladesh, India, Costa Rica, China, and Indonesia. But that's just my experience.
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Here's my half-baked attempt at an example.
Quick: What's the lowest price for a gallon of gas?
There's always some variance in the price in any given area. Keeping track of these variances is easy near home, but the further from home you get the harder it is to know. I've overpaid for gas all over, but never near home. I pass the local gas stations too often to not have a regular notion of what the going rate is and who is usually cheapest.
Since I make about five or six road trips every year for work, I find myself in new places buying gas. Every state has a different mix of gas stations and state/local taxes. Not having local knowledge, I don't know who is cheapest (though Admiral in Michigan seems to be a somewhat safe bet). And so I wind up overpaying.
The OP may be noticing the same sort of effect, just in his case it's hotels, restaurants and transportation. This isn't to say you can't find bargains away from home, it just takes some effort.
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I think that partly people are prone to spend more when they go abroad just because it is a foreign country, and who knows when (or if) they'll go back, so why not splurge a little? Also, given the weakness of the USD, everything is more expensive abroad in EU countries. However, I would say that if you're looking for bottom-dollar deals, the US is honestly MORE expensive for foreigners to vacation in than for Americans to backpack abroad. There are only a handful of hostels or cheap places in the US to stay that are centrally located in cities. Public transit is fairly horrid all around, be it within a city ot between cities. There are pretty much no low-cost carriers in the US that fly into major cities. Sure, if you can get out to the suburbs you can get cheaper hotels and find stores like Walmart, but that's hardly desirable positioning for making the most of sight-seeing.
The thing that ticks me off most about the US is the price of attractions. Some museums have free days/afternoons every so often, but it's hardly like London where all gov't owned museums are free all the time. Shows/concerts often tend to me more expensive here, too. And amusement park prices have gotten ridiculous.
The thing that ticks me off most about the US is the price of attractions. Some museums have free days/afternoons every so often, but it's hardly like London where all gov't owned museums are free all the time. Shows/concerts often tend to me more expensive here, too. And amusement park prices have gotten ridiculous.
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Oh, and just say NO to amusement parks
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On the other hand, San Diego, Salt Lake City, Houston, or Atlanta without a car is pure torture.
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Quick: What's the lowest price for a gallon of gas?
There's always some variance in the price in any given area. Keeping track of these variances is easy near home, but the further from home you get the harder it is to know. I've overpaid for gas all over, but never near home. I pass the local gas stations too often to not have a regular notion of what the going rate is and who is usually cheapest.
Since I make about five or six road trips every year for work, I find myself in new places buying gas. Every state has a different mix of gas stations and state/local taxes. Not having local knowledge, I don't know who is cheapest ....
There's always some variance in the price in any given area. Keeping track of these variances is easy near home, but the further from home you get the harder it is to know. I've overpaid for gas all over, but never near home. I pass the local gas stations too often to not have a regular notion of what the going rate is and who is usually cheapest.
Since I make about five or six road trips every year for work, I find myself in new places buying gas. Every state has a different mix of gas stations and state/local taxes. Not having local knowledge, I don't know who is cheapest ....
I was commuting from Los Angeles to San Francisco for two months....and before every trip, I had scoped out the places to hit the cheapest gas on both of the major routes for the trip.
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