Houston to get Jumbos!
Apr 23, 2008, 4:01 am
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Just glanced at MMB on BA.com. At least as of this posting, still listed as a 777. While I like the 777 (esp the awesome take off), I'd still prefer the 747 upper deck!
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Apr 23, 2008, 4:17 am
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Apr 23, 2008, 4:53 am
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Don't think NRT will go to a 777, I'd heard there was some sort of agreement with the Japanese about minimum capacity on the route to retain the slots. The 'extra' 747s are coming from the switch of the BAH/DOH route to the 777 for the summer and the introduction of an increased utilisation program for the 747 which see's the minimum turnaround time for a 747 reduced to three hours at LHR. In practice that means we'll all be seeing more delays and dirtier aircraft as everybody but management can see a three hour turnaround won't work.
I remember when the BA007 NRT was on the 777 for a while, but can't see it downsizing now. NRT is very good cargo revenue for BA. The flights might not always be full, but the cargo profit on the route is very lucrative. I found this out recently when the flight was less than 50% full, but the crew informed me that the flights can often be passenger weight restrictive due to heavy cargo.
Apr 23, 2008, 5:06 am
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Who told you that? I've never seen or heard of a Narita flight that was weight restricted even with extremes of winter headwinds. Standard practice when a flight is weight restricted is to offload cargo before passengers.
Apr 23, 2008, 7:52 am
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The 'extra' 747s are coming from the switch of the BAH/DOH route to the 777 for the summer and the introduction of an increased utilisation program for the 747 which see's the minimum turnaround time for a 747 reduced to three hours at LHR. In practice that means we'll all be seeing more delays and dirtier aircraft as everybody but management can see a three hour turnaround won't work.
NGBTS.
Apr 23, 2008, 9:43 am
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BA moved my seat to 13A (from 16 I think), but that is all. I looked on BA.com, and BA Loyal is correct. If I go in without using MMB, it shows a 747. If I go to MMB and look at my seat, the booking still reflects 777. Any ideas on when the seat map for the 747 will come in? I would have thought it would be when the 747 was assigned to the route. Am I missing something?
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Apr 23, 2008, 10:23 am
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Apr 23, 2008, 10:33 am
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I assume Houston is a key market because of it's importance in the energy industry, but there have been a number of other developments that BA may feel they need to compete against, notably direct 777-200LR services to/from DXB & DOH and SQ's 777 direct service to Moscow (can't remember which airport) with onward service to SIN. Add to that LH swapping it's 346 for a 747 and there's quite a lot of change down here in Texas.
Apr 23, 2008, 11:11 am
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Even worse with the Gatwick route there will be more flying dorms going back and forth to NYC from LON than 747's. Oh well, needs must.
Apr 23, 2008, 12:20 pm
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Well, in fairness, it is the 113/116 which is switching to 777 and the 179/182 on some days of the week. 173/172 is currently a 777. So still fairly dominated by the big bird.
Apr 23, 2008, 3:16 pm
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Just to update: B747s are coming from BA113 on the JFK route, BA93 on the YYZ, one of the DXB frequencies (BA107?) or BA213 to BOS.
All swaps will be for 4 class B777-200.
Interesting. BOS, DXB & YYZ won't have any Jumbos for the winter schedules. JFK will get double daily LHR B777s which will operate both daylight flights from New York.
As meantioned before, Calgary is getting the MAN-JFK B767, displacing the B777 for the up & coming Gatwick-JFK.
All swaps will be for 4 class B777-200.
Interesting. BOS, DXB & YYZ won't have any Jumbos for the winter schedules. JFK will get double daily LHR B777s which will operate both daylight flights from New York.
As meantioned before, Calgary is getting the MAN-JFK B767, displacing the B777 for the up & coming Gatwick-JFK.
Apr 23, 2008, 3:43 pm
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Just to update: B747s are coming from BA113 on the JFK route, BA93 on the YYZ, one of the DXB frequencies (BA107?) or BA213 to BOS.
All swaps will be for 4 class B777-200.
Interesting. BOS, DXB & YYZ won't have any Jumbos for the winter schedules. JFK will get double daily LHR B777s which will operate both daylight flights from New York.
As meantioned before, Calgary is getting the MAN-JFK B767, displacing the B777 for the up & coming Gatwick-JFK.
All swaps will be for 4 class B777-200.
Interesting. BOS, DXB & YYZ won't have any Jumbos for the winter schedules. JFK will get double daily LHR B777s which will operate both daylight flights from New York.
As meantioned before, Calgary is getting the MAN-JFK B767, displacing the B777 for the up & coming Gatwick-JFK.
). - YYZ and BOS have found themselves frequently without a 747 in their schedules over the years.
- The later of the two morning JFK departures is only a 777 on Wednesdays. For the rest of the week it is a 747.
Last edited by The Saint; Apr 23, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Apr 23, 2008, 3:50 pm
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Why are you perplexed after 3 years on FT? Even if the OP is guilty as charged, he is hardly unique in that respect on this board!
Apr 23, 2008, 3:58 pm
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I assume Houston is a key market because of it's importance in the energy industry, but there have been a number of other developments that BA may feel they need to compete against, notably direct 777-200LR services to/from DXB & DOH and SQ's 777 direct service to Moscow (can't remember which airport) with onward service to SIN. Add to that LH swapping it's 346 for a 747 and there's quite a lot of change down here in Texas.
Despite oil hitting $120/bb there are rumblings going down. We've been asked to cut down our expenditure (such as travel
) and there was this little tidbit on BBC today:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7362348.stm
Oil giant Shell is to shed 180 more jobs in Aberdeen, it has said.
The company said the office-based posts were going in the next three years to help "secure its long-term competitive future in the UK".
The company said the office-based posts were going in the next three years to help "secure its long-term competitive future in the UK".