Voluntary downgrade
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Essex,UK
Programs: BA , HH, PC RA
Posts: 1,130
Voluntary downgrade
I have just returned from DXB.
I was checking in for the flight in NCW when the agent informed me that the flight was oversold in F,J and Y and would mrs swissytrader and myself be willing to be downgraded to WTP.
As it was the daytime flight I thought, well if the price is right then ok.
So I asked the agent how much compensation would be paid and she replied £200 each, non-negotiable.
I declined the offer, checked in and made my way to the lounge.
I considered £200 as not high enough.
What do you guy's think
I was checking in for the flight in NCW when the agent informed me that the flight was oversold in F,J and Y and would mrs swissytrader and myself be willing to be downgraded to WTP.
As it was the daytime flight I thought, well if the price is right then ok.
So I asked the agent how much compensation would be paid and she replied £200 each, non-negotiable.
I declined the offer, checked in and made my way to the lounge.
I considered £200 as not high enough.
What do you guy's think
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAN and LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC LT Gold, HH Dia, MR LT Plat, IHG Diamond Amb, Amex Plat
Posts: 13,772
At first I thought this was another thread about the demise of OB
No way is £200 enough, they are taking the P*** big time. The new EU regulations require much higher compensation than this I thought. £200 doesnt even cover the price difference one way between W and J.
No way is £200 enough, they are taking the P*** big time. The new EU regulations require much higher compensation than this I thought. £200 doesnt even cover the price difference one way between W and J.
#4
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA, VS, HH, IHG, MB, MR
Posts: 26,871
However, you can be sure that there would be plenty of people travelling for work (on a ticket paid for by their employer) who would happily have taken the money!
But I agree - no way would I do this on a ticket paid for myself with cash or miles.
But I agree - no way would I do this on a ticket paid for myself with cash or miles.
#5
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,806
Given that an involuntary downgrading would give rise to a payment under the EU regs:
Then £200 from DXB seems woefully inadequate.
Article 10
2. If an operating air carrier places a passenger in a class lower than that for which the ticket was purchased, it shall within seven days, by the means provided for in Article 7(3), reimburse
(a) 30 % of the price of the ticket for all flights of 1500 kilometres or less, or
(b) 50 % of the price of the ticket for all intra-Community flights of more than 1500 kilometres, except flights between the European territory of the Member States and the French overseas departments, and for all other flights between 1500 and 3500 kilometres, or
(c) 75 % of the price of the ticket for all flights not falling under (a) or (b), including flights between the European territory of the Member States and the French overseas departments.
2. If an operating air carrier places a passenger in a class lower than that for which the ticket was purchased, it shall within seven days, by the means provided for in Article 7(3), reimburse
(a) 30 % of the price of the ticket for all flights of 1500 kilometres or less, or
(b) 50 % of the price of the ticket for all intra-Community flights of more than 1500 kilometres, except flights between the European territory of the Member States and the French overseas departments, and for all other flights between 1500 and 3500 kilometres, or
(c) 75 % of the price of the ticket for all flights not falling under (a) or (b), including flights between the European territory of the Member States and the French overseas departments.
#6
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 2,324
£200 a joke.
#
My brother Was offered ( cant remember exact amount) arond £1500 to downgrade CX J to Y.
Seems fair.
Asked on the board if he should inform his boss or not.
Receieved a a massive slagging off ( very rude) about ethics , theft etc etc from that guy over on the CX board he a few months lated had to shoot himself when he got caught with his hands im the till big time.
To Down Grade from NCW - WTP I would not even think about it for less than £ 500. Maybe lower if they offered cash & Miles .
#
My brother Was offered ( cant remember exact amount) arond £1500 to downgrade CX J to Y.
Seems fair.
Asked on the board if he should inform his boss or not.
Receieved a a massive slagging off ( very rude) about ethics , theft etc etc from that guy over on the CX board he a few months lated had to shoot himself when he got caught with his hands im the till big time.
To Down Grade from NCW - WTP I would not even think about it for less than £ 500. Maybe lower if they offered cash & Miles .
#10
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold, BD Gold, PC Ambassador, SPG Gold
Posts: 4,001
Originally Posted by swissytrader
Just £200 in total
Tight b******s
Tight b******s
Last edited by PhilH; Mar 30, 2006 at 5:00 am
#11
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,993
I was offered £500 by Cathay for invol downgrade F to J from HKG to JNB. I put up a fuss and received an additional 90k Asia Miles (almost enough for a F return to USA!).
I thought that was a good deal!
£200 - that's pathetic.
I thought that was a good deal!
£200 - that's pathetic.
#12
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: E14
Programs: BA GGL, Marriott, IHG, Sirius, Dusit, Thai, Virgin, Hyatt, BAA, AS, AA(both)
Posts: 1,240
£200
Not too sure how BA worked out £200 - any of the grads on here want to work through the fare table and see if they can get it
Just a quick look gives
W2BA £1380
J2BA £2517
Or even of the one ways
WOW1 £1286
J1 £1668
from the following link
http://www.batraveltrade.com/cms/b2b...es/int0603.pdf
Swissy £200 might cover tonights bar bill but wouldn't get your a good solicitor
Just a quick look gives
W2BA £1380
J2BA £2517
Or even of the one ways
WOW1 £1286
J1 £1668
from the following link
http://www.batraveltrade.com/cms/b2b...es/int0603.pdf
Swissy £200 might cover tonights bar bill but wouldn't get your a good solicitor
#13
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2005
Location: TLV/LHR
Programs: BA GGL, IHG Diamond Elite Amb, HH Diamond, Avis PC, Hertz PC, Sixt Platinum
Posts: 12,948
Originally Posted by swissytrader
Just £200 in total
Tight b******s
Tight b******s
I assumed you would get back the difference in fare as well, basically there is no compensation here whatsoever, and actually what they are offering you leave you out of pocket
Strange…
#14
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: BA Silver, HHonors Silver, Marriott Club, Priority Club Club
Posts: 334
Originally Posted by The Saint
Given that an involuntary downgrading would give rise to a payment under the EU regs:
Then £200 from DXB seems woefully inadequate.
Then £200 from DXB seems woefully inadequate.
#15
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Programs: BA Blue, VS Red
Posts: 346
When the offer was made to a colleague and I in DXB it was £200 each for us + my employer being able to claim for the difference in the ticket price. As it was a night flight I thought that the offer was far too low. I don't need the money that much and my employer certainly doesn't.