BA & JetBlue (B6) to launch codeshares

Old May 22, 2024, 2:47 pm
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BA & JetBlue (B6) to launch codeshares

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Old May 22, 2024, 2:50 pm
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Submission document to the DOT - shows the list of proposed codeshare destinations

https://downloads.regulations.gov/DO...tachment_1.pdf
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Old May 22, 2024, 2:51 pm
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Gosh. That's a surprise. Others may not be very hAAppy.
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Old May 22, 2024, 2:53 pm
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Surprised those email addresses aren’t redacted !
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Old May 22, 2024, 3:29 pm
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Very surprised by this, JetBlue and AA used to be close with the NEA, and I can't imagine BA would do this without AA knowing? Maybe this spells some kind of resurrection of the NEA?

Either way, after switching my loyalty to JetBlue, this is potentially very welcome news...but if you though BA IT was bad, wait until you try JetBlue's...
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Does that mean we'd be able to earn Avios and TP on B6 operated flights in the US,? That would be interesting
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Old May 22, 2024, 4:15 pm
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Does that mean we'd be able to earn Avios and TP on B6 operated flights in the US,? That would be interesting
If it has a BA code on it then yes. So if you booked a LHR-JFK-LAX in J youd get 280TPs with the JFK-LAX in B6 mint
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Old May 22, 2024, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by andymcdonnell
If it has a BA code on it then yes. So if you booked a LHR-JFK-LAX in J youd get 280TPs with the JFK-LAX in B6 mint
The filing does not include any mention of other cooperation, such as frequent flyer program reciprocity. A query to JetBlue about that potential remains pending at time of announcement.

I'd like to think in time and with the approvals granted this will include what you're suggesting but we're a long way off that at the moment.
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Old May 22, 2024, 4:23 pm
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The filing does not include any mention of other cooperation, such as frequent flyer program reciprocity. A query to JetBlue about that potential remains pending at time of announcement.
Yes, but if you book any flight on a BA code, regardless who it's operated by, you'll earn Avios / TPs.
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Old May 22, 2024, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by 1Aturnleft
The filing does not include any mention of other cooperation, such as frequent flyer program reciprocity. A query to JetBlue about that potential remains pending at time of announcement.

I'd like to think in time and with the approvals granted this will include what you're suggesting but we're a long way off that at the moment.

A codeshare flight is where two or more airlines share the same flight. It's operated by one airline under their own code and has additional flight numbers under the codes of other airlines. For example, the British Airways flight BA219 also operates under the American Airlines code AA6170.

Whether you collect Avios and Tier Points depends on the airline flight number on your ticket:
  • If your flight code is British Airways, youll collect Avios and Tier Points no matter who operates the flight.
  • If your flight code is for a oneworld airline, youll collect Avios only if your flight is also operated by a oneworld airline.
  • For other flight codes, you wont collect Avios.
The amount you earn is determined by the airline code you booked under.
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jetBlue said they planned to drop flights to Milwaukee, Wisconsin (MKE) as part of their cost cutting. How do they plan to operate that codeshare flight?

https://skift.com/2024/01/19/jetblue...rit-collapses/
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/19/jetb...-purchase.html
https://www.bizjournals.com/milwauke...ast-route.html
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jetBlue said they planned to drop flights to Milwaukee, Wisconsin (MKE) as part of their cost cutting. How do they plan to operate that codeshare flight?
The team will have been working on this for many months before being in a position to submit this for approval to the regulators. They would early in the process taken a snapshot of the network, particularly off BOS and JFK, and worked off that, ignoring any changes that happen along the way. Otherwise the job would never get done. It's not unusual to seek codeshare rights on routes and then not operate them, or operate them from time to time. If MKE was restored then they don't need to go back to the regulators.
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Old May 22, 2024, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by 1Aturnleft
The filing does not include any mention of other cooperation, such as frequent flyer program reciprocity. A query to JetBlue about that potential remains pending at time of announcement.

I'd like to think in time and with the approvals granted this will include what you're suggesting but we're a long way off that at the moment.
For reference, B6's other codeshare partnerships have been almost exclusively codeshare only and haven't advanced into FF reciprocity. There's a minor agreement with Etihad but that's about it.
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Old May 22, 2024, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by andymcdonnell
A codeshare flight is where two or more airlines share the same flight. It's operated by one airline under their own code and has additional flight numbers under the codes of other airlines. For example, the British Airways flight BA219 also operates under the American Airlines code AA6170.

Whether you collect Avios and Tier Points depends on the airline flight number on your ticket:
  • If your flight code is British Airways, youll collect Avios and Tier Points no matter who operates the flight.
  • If your flight code is for a oneworld airline, youll collect Avios only if your flight is also operated by a oneworld airline.
  • For other flight codes, you wont collect Avios.
The amount you earn is determined by the airline code you booked under.
I'm aware what a codeshare is. And like I said previously the finer details have yet to be confirmed but I agree should follow this process assuming BA doesn't amend that wording in time for if/when this particular codeshare agreement comes in to force.

Believe it or not but the whole point of a codeshare from an airline perspective isn't about passengers earning status and miles. It's about providing a seamless travel experience from A-B via C. The earning ability is very much a byproduct of this agreement and yet here we are discussing the ability to earn Avios and Tier points on Mint Transcon before the application ink has even dried....

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Old May 22, 2024, 6:38 pm
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I'm quite surprised that BA will codeshare on B6 routes that AA also operates such as JFK-LAX and JFK-MIA.

I could understand BA codesharing on routes that AA does not operate (AA is somewhat weak out of NYC) but the competition routes are a definite surprise.

Note that Jetblue is coach only for the majority of their fleet.
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