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Old May 15, 2024, 1:17 am
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PBS is showing a programme about cabin crew in the last century at 8.45 tonight.
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Old May 15, 2024, 2:37 am
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PBS is showing a programme about cabin crew in the last century at 8.45 tonight.
Thanks for the heads up. Is it available (in UK) somewhere? Or on some form of catch up?
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Old May 15, 2024, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by BA or bust
Thanks for the heads up. Is it available (in UK) somewhere? Or on some form of catch up?
PBS is part of regular FreeView in the UK (https://www.freeview.co.uk/get-freev...ls/pbs-america).
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I like these sort of programmes so thanks for posting.

I wonder if BA will be in it? Nevertheless I'm sure it will be interesting.
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Old May 15, 2024, 4:51 am
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Originally Posted by PETER01
I like these sort of programmes so thanks for posting.
Agree there. I watched the Channel 5 70s holidays thing that was on last night. Great archive footage, and material.

Other parts, the constant talking heads repeating what the narrator had just summarised and throwing in a 747-8i to the mix, not so good.

BBCs Timeshift it wasnt!
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Old May 15, 2024, 5:42 am
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For those who can’t wait, here’s a report from 1950 of BOAC training:
https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/78897/
Lots more videos on the site if you search for “air stewardess”
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Old May 15, 2024, 6:03 am
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Originally Posted by PETER01
I wonder if BA will be in it ?
I guess we’ll just have to watch and see.

“The story of the pioneering women who changed the world while flying it. Maligned as feminist sellouts, 'stewardesses', as they were called, were on the frontlines of a battle to assert gender equality and transform the workplace. Part 1 of 2. (S)“

And to head off the posts from forum members who get triggered by the merest mention of “air hostesses”, I guess we also have to add a “Caution : May contain outdated terminology” advisory.
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Old May 15, 2024, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by Oxon Flyer
And to head off the posts from forum members who get triggered by the merest mention of air hostesses, I guess we also have to add a Caution : May contain outdated terminology advisory.
This post is 5 hours old already. And not 1 single post of anyone triggered. So glad you are willing to bravely fight back against the imaginary woke mob.
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Old May 15, 2024, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by Oxon Flyer
And to head off the posts from forum members who get triggered by the merest mention of air hostesses, I guess we also have to add a Caution : May contain outdated terminology advisory.
Apparently, if a report on Radio 4's PM programme is to believed, trigger warnings themselves can be triggering for some snowflakes. So your suggested Caution is not really helping matters.

(What is the acceptable term for a female member of the cabin crew?)
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Old May 15, 2024, 9:42 am
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Cabin crew.
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Old May 15, 2024, 9:54 am
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Anybody calling a female member of cabin crew an air hostess these days would rightly be shown the door.
I’m happy that we are all grown up enough on this forum to be able to see things in the correct historical context.
I’m quite sure that when I was very young a friend of mine was marking time until she was allowed to apply to be an air hostess although we may have just been crossing over into stewardess territory by then.

I hope I can find the documentary in question. It looks interesting.
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Old May 15, 2024, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by Misco60
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(What is the acceptable term for a female member of the cabin crew?)
Cabin Crew

Some might think that it should be Handmaidens the way that they talk to you.

When I started work I was a Stewardess That is now older than the hills, Most of the terms aboard came from the Merchant Navy.
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Old May 15, 2024, 10:16 am
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Cabin crew.
"Cabin crew" is a collective noun. You can say that someone is a member of the cabin crew, but I don't think you can really say "s/he is cabin crew": to me, it's ungrammatical and awkward. Which is why, I think, most people I know still call them stewardesses, even though it's an outdated term.
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Old May 15, 2024, 10:24 am
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You certainly can and should.
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Old May 15, 2024, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by Misco60
"Cabin crew" is a collective noun. You can say that someone is a member of the cabin crew, but I don't think you can really say "s/he is cabin crew": to me, it's ungrammatical and awkward. Which is why, I think, most people I know still call them stewardesses, even though it's an outdated term.
Then say "they are cabin crew" and you avoid falling foul of other lexical difficulties
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