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Feb 12, 2024, 11:00 am

JapesUK

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Shortest BA WTP flight?

Just a sense check please, Is Kuwait the shortest WTP flight from LHR? If not, what is? Thanks!

Feb 12, 2024, 11:08 am

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I think so. Beats ABV by about 50miles.

Feb 12, 2024, 11:22 am

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Surely it’s Rio to Buenos Aires (or the return) with an average flight time of 3hrs or so.

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Feb 12, 2024, 11:28 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Door5L

Surely it’s Rio to Buenos Aires (or the return) with an average flight time of 3hrs or so.

But the OP specified shortest from LHR.

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Feb 12, 2024, 11:32 am

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Before the downgrade of aircraft I would have thought that it would been CAI or another city in the region.

Feb 12, 2024, 11:47 am

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Hi MaxFlyer CAI was the first one I checked

Door5L unfortunately that’s too much positioning for a weekend bounce

c1223 Thanks, I just looked at ABV, which was not even on my radar, and oh my, the redemption and cash differences are crazy, in all the wrong ways!

A follow on question if you will indulge me, anyone know if back to backs are possible at KWI? Its not in the BA B2B wiki, I’ve checked there.

Feb 12, 2024, 11:47 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TedToToe

But the OP specified shortest from LHR.

Devil is in the detail. Thread title doesn't mention LHR so my immediate thought on reading that was one of the Caribbean hops.
As my teachers used to tell me, when in doubt read the question.

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Feb 12, 2024, 12:08 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxFlyer

Before the downgrade of aircraft I would have thought that it would been CAI or another city in the region.

Indeed, the question could also have been worded "which midhaul route is the next to be enhanced to ET/CE"

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Feb 12, 2024, 12:21 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JapesUK

Hi MaxFlyer CAI was the first one I checked

Door5L unfortunately that’s too much positioning for a weekend bounce

personally anywhere that involves immigration/transferring outside the EU is a risk. The flight is classed as long haul so will be boarding earlier than an ex-eu on the return. Appears to arrive at 0640 and then leave again at 0820 so boarding say 0740?

maybe

this QR thread may help

KWI back-to-back, is it doable?

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Feb 12, 2024, 12:48 pm

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Thanks DXB2745 that’s really helpful, appreciated. I think I’ll take a punt assuming BA allows it on one PNR. Still cannot find the KWI MCT, but plenty of options if I want to go to Muscat

ratechaser a better title would be ‘I want to try WTP… for the shortest time possible’

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Feb 12, 2024, 1:03 pm

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East Coast US, whilst not quickest, will have ample options for swift turn around and often keenly priced…

Feb 12, 2024, 1:17 pm

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Quote:

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East Coast US, whilst not quickest, will have ample options for swift turn around and often keenly priced…

thanks mikeyfly , I did a JFK CW B2B last year, there and back from NCL in 28 hours, wiped me out, although the rocket fuel cocktail at the TWA hotel kept me going for hours

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Feb 12, 2024, 2:10 pm

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Quote:

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Still cannot find the KWI MCT,

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**-D8 II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-DL II GLSUP CDS N/A - ** COUNTRY RU - ALL 26FEB22 - INF
**-DL II GLSUP COUNTRY RU - ALL 26FEB22 - INF
**-DY II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-DY II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-EK II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-EK II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-EK II GLSUP CDS DL - N/A 01SEP22 - INF
**-EK II 2.00
**-EW II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-EW II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-EY II GLSUP CDS DL - N/A 01SEP22 - INF
**-F9 II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-F9 II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-H2 II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-H2 II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-IB II GLSUP CDS N/A - VY
**-J2 II SUP CDS N/A - **
**-J2 II SUP
**-KC II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-KC II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-KU II 2.00 TRM 1 - 4
**-LA II GLSUP CDS N/A - ** COUNTRY CU - COUNTRY US
04JUL23 - INF
**-LA II GLSUP CDS N/A - ** COUNTRY US - COUNTRY VE
23MAY23 - INF
**-LA II GLSUP COUNTRY US - COUNTRY CU 04JUL23 - INF
**-LA II GLSUP COUNTRY US - COUNTRY VE 23MAY23 - INF
**-ME II 2.00 CDS N/A - **
**-ME II 2.00
**-PC II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-PC II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-PD II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-PD II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-QR II GLSUP CDS DL - N/A
**-QS II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-QS II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-RO II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-RO II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-SV II 1.30
**-SY II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-SY II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-TR II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-TR II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-UX II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-UX II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-VA II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-VA II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-VB II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-VB II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-VY II GLSUP
**-W6 II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-W6 II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-XP II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-XP II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
**-Y4 II GLSUP CDS AA - **
**-Y4 II GLSUP CDS AA - N/A
2Z-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
2Z-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - 2Z
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - 2Z
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AR
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AR
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - BC
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - BC
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - BT
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - BT
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - D8
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - D8
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - DY
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - DY
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - EK
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - EK
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - EW
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - EW
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - F9
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - F9
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - H2
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - H2
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - KC
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - KC
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - PC
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - PC
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - PD
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - PD
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - QS
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - QS
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - SY
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - SY
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - TR
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - TR
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - VA
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - VA
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - VB
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - VB
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - W6
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - W6
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - XP
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - XP
AA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - Y4
AA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - Y4
AD-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
AD-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
AI-** II 3.00 CDS ** - N/A
AI-** II 3.00
AR-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
AR-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
BC-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
BC-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
BG-** II 3.00
BT-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
BT-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
D8-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
D8-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
DL-** II GLSUP CDS ** - N/A ALL - COUNTRY RU 26FEB22 - INF
DL-** II GLSUP ALL - COUNTRY RU 26FEB22 - INF
DY-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
DY-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
EK-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
EK-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
EK-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - DL 01SEP22 - INF
EK-** II 2.00
EW-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
EW-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
EY-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - DL 01SEP22 - INF
F9-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
F9-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
FZ-** II 3.00
H2-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
H2-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
HX-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
HX-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
IB-** II GLSUP CDS VY - N/A
IR-** II 3.00 CDS ** - N/A AWZ - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 CDS ** - N/A CQD - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 CDS ** - N/A IFN - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 CDS ** - N/A LRR - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 CDS ** - N/A MHD - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 CDS ** - N/A SYZ - ALL
IR-** II 2.00 CDS ** - N/A THR - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 AWZ - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 CQD - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 IFN - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 LRR - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 MHD - ALL
IR-** II 3.00 SYZ - ALL
IR-** II 2.00 THR - ALL
J2-** II SUP CDS ** - N/A
J2-** II SUP
KC-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
KC-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
KU-** II 2.00 TRM 4 - 1
LA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - N/A COUNTRY US - COUNTRY CU
04JUL23 - INF
LA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - N/A COUNTRY VE - COUNTRY US
23MAY23 - INF
LA-** II GLSUP COUNTRY CU - COUNTRY US 04JUL23 - INF
LA-** II GLSUP COUNTRY VE - COUNTRY US 23MAY23 - INF
ME-** II 2.00 CDS ** - N/A
ME-** II 2.00
MX-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
MX-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
NK-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
NK-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
PC-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
PC-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
PD-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
PD-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
QR-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - DL
QS-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
QS-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
RO-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
RO-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
SV-** II 1.30
SY-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
SY-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
TR-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
TR-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
TS-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
TS-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
UA-** II GLSUP COUNTRY SV - COUNTRY NI
UX-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
UX-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
VA-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
VA-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
VB-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
VB-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
VY-** II GLSUP
W6-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
W6-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
XP-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
XP-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
Y4-** II GLSUP CDS ** - AA
Y4-** II GLSUP CDS N/A - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - 2Z
**-** II GLSUP CDS 2Z - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS AD - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS AR - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS BC - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS BT - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS D8 - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS DY - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS EK - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS EW - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS F9 - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS H2 - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS HX - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS KC - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS MX - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS NK - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS PC - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS PD - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS QS - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS RO - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS SY - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS TR - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS TS - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS UX - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS VA - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS VB - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS W6 - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS XP - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS Y4 - AA
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - AR
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - BC
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - BT
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - D8
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - DY
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - EK
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - EW
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - F9
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - H2
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - KC
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - PC
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - PD
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - QS
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - RO
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - SY
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - TR
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - UX
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - VA
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - VB
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - W6
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - XP
**-** II GLSUP CDS AA - Y4
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