Permitted City Pairs In USA
Jan 5, 2024, 3:09 am
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Permitted City Pairs In USA
Is there a way of establishing what routes BA can book domestically to a specific final destination?
One of my BAH bookings has been downgraded to J from F, so sensing the opportunity to grab an extra 160TP or so I'd like to fly F to an initial destination, then F/J to my final destination. However not all city pairs can be booked for some arcane reason I no longer remember. So I'm looking to find F routes that are allowed to connect to my final destination.
Trial and error is working, it just got me wondering. I did ask about ORC but was told it was not possible.
One of my BAH bookings has been downgraded to J from F, so sensing the opportunity to grab an extra 160TP or so I'd like to fly F to an initial destination, then F/J to my final destination. However not all city pairs can be booked for some arcane reason I no longer remember. So I'm looking to find F routes that are allowed to connect to my final destination.
Trial and error is working, it just got me wondering. I did ask about ORC but was told it was not possible.
Jan 5, 2024, 3:12 am
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Is there a particular reason you don’t want to mention the final destination? If you say where you are booked to, chances are people can make far more useful suggestions about optimal routing (obviously look at to run thread too) than by phrasing the question in such general terms?
Jan 5, 2024, 3:32 am
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Oh sure, it's LHR/ PHL but I was wondering generically for future reference. In this case I did reroute via MIA. Historically I've just been told that I can't fly say BOS/JFK for reasons connected to ticketing agreements or similar.
Jan 5, 2024, 3:38 am
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Under the joint business, all US destinations served by AA are included. Exclusions are only places AA don’t serve. You might have pushback asking for a significantly inefficient routing (e.g. MIA via LAX) but even then it’s still technically possible.
Jan 5, 2024, 5:03 am
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There are limits to Maximum Permitted Mileage on nearly all fares, which prohibit shenanigans like routing LHR-LAX-JFK on an LHR-JFK fare.
LHR-MIA-PHL may exceed this but you can ask. I'm sure LHR-BOS/JFK-PHL would not exceed it. LHR-ORD/CLT-PHL may well be OK too.
LHR-MIA-PHL may exceed this but you can ask. I'm sure LHR-BOS/JFK-PHL would not exceed it. LHR-ORD/CLT-PHL may well be OK too.
Jan 5, 2024, 8:44 am
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Interestingly around the time of my planned flight I am meant to be fitting in a West Coast trip, but I imagine putting in a multi-day stopover in LAX would force a repricing. Still that seems like it'd be 1680 TPS? That has to be worth it! Would you mind sharing the timings?
Jan 5, 2024, 8:45 am
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So that particular example I think wouldn't be allowed ordinarily as it would exceed MPM. In disruption they don't necessarily have to follow fare rules, but I'm still surprised they agreed to that one this far out!
Jan 5, 2024, 8:46 am
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Jan 5, 2024, 10:59 am
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I was surprised to not even get a: "wait, so you want to fly across the country in the wrong direction, to then come back on yourself and add about 10 hours to your journey...?"
Jan 5, 2024, 11:00 am
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Interestingly around the time of my planned flight I am meant to be fitting in a West Coast trip, but I imagine putting in a multi-day stopover in LAX would force a repricing. Still that seems like it'd be 1680 TPS? That has to be worth it! Would you mind sharing the timings?
Jan 5, 2024, 12:59 pm
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I've also previously had a lot of EU-LHR-MIA-JFK which ended up just below MPM.
Something you could easily do is LHR-CLT-LGA-PHL or mixing DCA in.
Jan 5, 2024, 1:41 pm
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There's MPM but then also "reductions" if you go through specific gateways. Often you can get a 500 miles MPM reduction when going through ORD ex-EU or when going through DFW/LAX on your US-TPAC.
I've also previously had a lot of EU-LHR-MIA-JFK which ended up just below MPM.
Something you could easily do is LHR-CLT-LGA-PHL or mixing DCA in.
I've also previously had a lot of EU-LHR-MIA-JFK which ended up just below MPM.
Something you could easily do is LHR-CLT-LGA-PHL or mixing DCA in.
Jan 5, 2024, 4:09 pm
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MPM applies at prime sale and for voluntary changes, but not for invol reissues triggered by disruption.