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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2023 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
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Please remember to:
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From Europe

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From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

CAI-LHR-HEL-JFK-LAX-SFO return for 1800gbp earning 960 Tps

From Africa

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post XX of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the post XXX of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs

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Old Mar 28, 2024, 6:13 am
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Does an Aer Lingus operated but AA codeshared flight by any chance attract Tier Points?
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Old Mar 28, 2024, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by AJA_
Not sure anyone replied to you but have you considered looking at flights to the Canary Islands via mainland Spain eg LHR-MAD then MAD-TFS then TFS-LHR? They can be flown on either IB or BA metal. If IB you have the choice of IB flight and IB metal or IB operated but with BA flight numbers.

Alternatively fly to Palma Mallorca via MAD but not sure if that's doable starting at LHR, you might have to hotfoot it over to LGW
Originally Posted by bisonrav
Canaries or even Spain would be difficult in terms of length of flight. Ideally you would find a cheap return to somewhere like Manchester or Newcastle. Given a date it'll be easier to have a look. Jersey is also good and a relatively foolproof B2B. You may be able to offset costs using the BA best price guarantee also.
Originally Posted by furryman
Rather than heading to the Canaries, if you want to do it all in one day, stick to the Iberian peninsula. Straight LHR -AGP and back (with the return via MAD) would give the three sectors.
Decided on 2 back to back LHR-MAN-LHR flights the same day. Makes for a long day, late checking to the hotel, finally, but it will be done, and hopefully the TPs post on time so my wife earns Gold before flying home.

Makes for a much nicer trip home being able to use the First Class Check in and Galleries F at T5 and we'll have 2 full days in London to enjoy.. been too long since I've been there,

Thanks y'all for the suggestions!
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Old Mar 28, 2024, 8:46 am
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Originally Posted by dougzz
Sometime back, maybe 2019, there was a very popular TP run, LHR-HEL-TLL (Tallinn) return. It yielded £200 TP, the HEL-TLL is small regional flight with economy only, hence 20TP, and was widely available for £232 I believe. That number stuck in my head. Tallinn is a nice weekend destination, and timing it right, from memory an early start on the return, you could get the Finnair A350 service to London, so a wide body experience for the longer flight. Finn also left from T3 which meant the (generally regarded as superior) lounge selection there on the outbound. It was pretty much the perfect Euro TP run. Those were the days….
Yes, this was a good TP run and Tallinn is actually a lovely city with lots to do.
Did the outbound on the A350 and inbound on the later A320 but worth it since otherwise it is a ridiculously early start in Tallinn.
Long gone though- sigh!!!
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Old Mar 28, 2024, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by IanWorthington
A couple of months go you could slap AGP-HEL-LHR on the front on a lengthy US TP run and get a good haul (>1000 TPs) at a reasonable, though not spectacular, rate. (Useful if you wanted, say 5000 TPs and didn't fancy making 10 trips to CGK). I got two of those booked for this before it vanished like a TP run vampire exposed to the full glare of the corporate dawn.
It would seem that maybe notice of its death has been exaggerated? I can now build AGP - MEX for February to harvest 1080 TPs for GBP 2/TP again.
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Old Mar 28, 2024, 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Dselvan
Tallinn is actually a lovely city with lots to do.
I did Tallinn by boat (Sweden Norway Russia) which is also not possible now. Does anyone have knowledge of the best way to experience Estonia these days?
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Old Mar 28, 2024, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by DeathSlam
I did Tallinn by boat (Sweden Norway Russia) which is also not possible now. Does anyone have knowledge of the best way to experience Estonia these days?
There is a Helsinki to Tallinn ferry
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Old Mar 28, 2024, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by IanWorthington
It would seem that maybe notice of its death has been exaggerated? I can now build AGP - MEX for February to harvest 1080 TPs for GBP 2/TP again.
Looking at the fare basis it never went but you probably hit a lack of I class

The mpm is tight though
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Old Mar 28, 2024, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by dougzz
Sometime back, maybe 2019, there was a very popular TP run, LHR-HEL-TLL (Tallinn) return. It yielded £200 TP, the HEL-TLL is small regional flight with economy only, hence 20TP, and was widely available for £232 I believe. That number stuck in my head. Tallinn is a nice weekend destination, and timing it right, from memory an early start on the return, you could get the Finnair A350 service to London, so a wide body experience for the longer flight. Finn also left from T3 which meant the (generally regarded as superior) lounge selection there on the outbound. It was pretty much the perfect Euro TP run. Those were the days….
I don’t mean to alarm you, but time has done weird things in recent years - it’s a bit further back than 2019! I don’t recall precisely when the fare was pulled, but my three trips to Tallin were in January, March, and June 2017. So I think it was available from sometime in late 2016 - I booked in early December having read Trip Reports here in the preceding month or three.

i agree that it was a perfect weekend holiday break/TP run - an interesting destination with fascinating history, very affordable, small enough to see a lot in a few days (and also good as a jumping off point for Latvia and Lithuania), lots of connections including the A350 on convenient times, and an incredibly low fare for the TPs.
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Old Mar 29, 2024, 3:58 am
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Originally Posted by squawk
I don’t mean to alarm you, but time has done weird things in recent years - it’s a bit further back than 2019! I don’t recall precisely when the fare was pulled, but my three trips to Tallin were in January, March, and June 2017. So I think it was available from sometime in late 2016 - I booked in early December having read Trip Reports here in the preceding month or three.

i agree that it was a perfect weekend holiday break/TP run - an interesting destination with fascinating history, very affordable, small enough to see a lot in a few days (and also good as a jumping off point for Latvia and Lithuania), lots of connections including the A350 on convenient times, and an incredibly low fare for the TPs.
Thinks surely not. Looks at camera roll and discovers most recent Tallinn pics from June 2017. I watched the Juventus Real Madrid CL final there, which ties in with the photo dates. Cannot believe it was that long ago. Apologies for reminiscing in the TP run thread.
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Old Mar 29, 2024, 4:14 am
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Originally Posted by E14 26C
Looking at the fare basis it never went but you probably hit a lack of I class
Quite possibly. I never dug deep enough to uncover the reason. iirc the price went up by 50% at some point.

Originally Posted by E14 26C
The mpm is tight though
Do you have access to that? I've tried several times building a route that starts with that and ends in BOG but without success, and assumed that was due to an mpm breach. I'd love to be able to score 1000 TPs on an EU-BOG trip, but the best I've been able to do, on a single ticket, has been 760 TPs, and always at a cost of over GBP 2/TP.
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Old Mar 29, 2024, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by IanWorthington
Quite possibly. I never dug deep enough to uncover the reason. iirc the price went up by 50% at some point.



Do you have access to that? I've tried several times building a route that starts with that and ends in BOG but without success, and assumed that was due to an mpm breach. I'd love to be able to score 1000 TPs on an EU-BOG trip, but the best I've been able to do, on a single ticket, has been 760 TPs, and always at a cost of over GBP 2/TP.
Well the only fare filed from AGP to BOG is on Iberia and has minimal routing options for a mileage run (AA will have better routings allowed and MPM but much higher fare bases).V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 IDN8NQM6 I‡R 759.00 ---- 30/‡ 7/ - AT01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-AGP TO-BOG CXR-IB TVL-18SEP24 RULE-M705 IPRSAA2/27
FARE BASIS-IDN8NQM6 SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BX RT-BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION
EUR 701.00 CONS E06OCT23 D-INFINITY FC-IDN8NQM6 FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 06OCT23/0617 EXPIRES INFINITY

**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING AGP-BOG/IB EF-06OCT23 DIS-INDEF
**ADDON ORG AGP SAARG/27 PUBLISHED ROUTING 7123
**PUBLISHED MAD-BOG SAARG/27 PUBLISHED ROUTING 7123

/VIA THE ATLANTIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-BOG
2. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-CLO-AV/IB/LA-BOG
3. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-HAV-CU/IB-BOG
4. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-LIM-AV/IB/LA/LP/TA-BOG
5. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-PTY-AV/IB/TA-BOG
6. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-BOG
7. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-CLO-AV/IB/LA-BOG
8. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-HAV-CU/IB-BOG
9. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-LIM-AV/IB/LA/LP/TA-BOG
10. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-PTY-AV/IB/TA-BOG
11. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-BOG
12. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-CLO-AV/IB/LA-BOG
13. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-HAV-CU/IB-BOG
14. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-LIM-AV/IB/LA/LP/TA-BOG
15. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-PTY-AV/IB/TA-BOG
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Old Mar 29, 2024, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by E14 26C
Well the only fare filed from AGP to BOG is on Iberia and has minimal routing options for a mileage run (AA will have better routings allowed and MPM but much higher fare bases).V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 IDN8NQM6 I‡R 759.00 ---- 30/‡ 7/ - AT01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-AGP TO-BOG CXR-IB TVL-18SEP24 RULE-M705 IPRSAA2/27
FARE BASIS-IDN8NQM6 SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BX RT-BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION
EUR 701.00 CONS E06OCT23 D-INFINITY FC-IDN8NQM6 FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 06OCT23/0617 EXPIRES INFINITY

**** CONSTRUCTED ROUTING AGP-BOG/IB EF-06OCT23 DIS-INDEF
**ADDON ORG AGP SAARG/27 PUBLISHED ROUTING 7123
**PUBLISHED MAD-BOG SAARG/27 PUBLISHED ROUTING 7123

/VIA THE ATLANTIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-BOG
2. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-CLO-AV/IB/LA-BOG
3. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-HAV-CU/IB-BOG
4. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-LIM-AV/IB/LA/LP/TA-BOG
5. AGP-LON-BA/IB-BCN-PTY-AV/IB/TA-BOG
6. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-BOG
7. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-CLO-AV/IB/LA-BOG
8. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-HAV-CU/IB-BOG
9. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-LIM-AV/IB/LA/LP/TA-BOG
10. AGP-LON-BA/IB-MAD-PTY-AV/IB/TA-BOG
11. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-BOG
12. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-CLO-AV/IB/LA-BOG
13. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-HAV-CU/IB-BOG
14. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-LIM-AV/IB/LA/LP/TA-BOG
15. AGP-MAD-BA/IB-LON-PTY-AV/IB/TA-BOG
.
I'm afraid I'm utterly unable to see the MPM in there, I'm afraid.

This is the AGP-...-MEX route that builds ok. 6000 miles direct v 9000 my routing:



And this is AGP-...-BOG:

Direct: 5000
Best I've found: 8000
Via HEL: 10 000

I guess that doubling the direct route's mileage is what's breaking the MPM?

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Old Mar 29, 2024, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by IanWorthington
I'm afraid I'm utterly unable to see the MPM in there, I'm afraid.

This is the AGP-...-MEX route that builds ok. 6000 miles direct v 9000 my routing:



And this is AGP-...-BOG:

Direct: 5000
Best I've found: 8000
Via HEL: 10 000

I guess that doubling the direct route's mileage is what's breaking the MPM?

For the cheap UK-BOG fares, there isn't an MPM; instead it's based on specific routing which excludes anything circuitous. Perhaps the same applies to the AGP/BCN <-> BOG fares?
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Old Mar 29, 2024, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by higham44
Out of DUB you need to factor in 180 days advance purchase for better prices. I have found DUB-LHR-JFK-MIA departing 1 Nov and return via same routing for £1535. No different to your price but gets extra TPs via JFK (440TPs).
Good point. That takes us currently to the end of September but I am looking to of middle of October so I am hoping in the next week or two the usual £1200 fares pop up.

They were there a week ago but I wasn't ready to book annoyingly.

Originally Posted by dougzz
DUB-LHR-XXX-CLT-YYY would be my guess here. XXX being East Coast entry, JFK, BOS or my guess for the cheapest would be PHL, then CLT as a hub and YYY being destination. You could try MIA, TPA, MCO, and some smaller ones like JAX, PBI, RSW if you’re not fussy about where in Florida. This should yield 520TP, from some very limited searches I can’t see anything sub £1500, so not great TP run value.
Thanks for your suggestion. It's a shame the lower fares aren't around at the minute. I hope they pop up again.

Anything over 400tp would be fine for this trip.
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Old Mar 29, 2024, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by eugegall
Good point. That takes us currently to the end of September but I am looking to of middle of October so I am hoping in the next week or two the usual £1200 fares pop up.

They were there a week ago but I wasn't ready to book annoyingly.

Thanks for your suggestion. It's a shame the lower fares aren't around at the minute. I hope they pop up again.

Anything over 400tp would be fine for this trip.
The fares generally don't get taken away and put back - certainly I think these have been around for a long time. What you're seeing is much more likely to be that the I class availability has been taken. Revenue Management can both give and take away there, but I wouldn't be holding out much hope that they refill a sold out I bucket before the 180 day mark.

You might have to try some creative routings. Theoretically you can do e.g. DUB-LHR-AMS-PHL-XXX [where AMS can be replaced with CDG, FRA etc] but I've found AA fairly stingy on releasing inventory for the TATL leg on those so IME the BA secondary city routes suggested above are more likely to yield results.
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