August U.S. loads
Oct 19, 2023, 2:19 pm
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August U.S. loads
Interesting passenger numbers for August. Portland topping Delta at MSP and SLC, and American at RDU. Is New Orleans headed for the chopping block?
LHR Aug 2023 vs Aug 2022
DL MINNEAPOLIS 12295 11361 +8.2%
BA NASHVILLE 8190 9558 -14.3%
BA NEW ORLEANS 3862 4379 -11%
BA PITTSBURGH 9273 5448 +70.2%
BA PORTLAND 14151 7796 +81.5%
AA RALEIGH 11947 10859 +10%
DL SALT LAKE CITY 12130 10545 +15%
LHR Aug 2023 vs Aug 2022
DL MINNEAPOLIS 12295 11361 +8.2%
BA NASHVILLE 8190 9558 -14.3%
BA NEW ORLEANS 3862 4379 -11%
BA PITTSBURGH 9273 5448 +70.2%
BA PORTLAND 14151 7796 +81.5%
AA RALEIGH 11947 10859 +10%
DL SALT LAKE CITY 12130 10545 +15%
Oct 19, 2023, 7:31 pm
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Have you taken into consideration the operational schedule of MSY compared to PDX as well as seasonal demand for the cities where one appears to be in a hurricane belt at that time of year and the other appears to be in the peak of season?
The thing I love about analytics is you can pretty much spin anything to back your argument. My boss does exactly the same.
The thing I love about analytics is you can pretty much spin anything to back your argument. My boss does exactly the same.
Oct 19, 2023, 8:16 pm
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Have you taken into consideration the operational schedule of MSY compared to PDX as well as seasonal demand for the cities where one appears to be in a hurricane belt at that time of year and the other appears to be in the peak of season?
The thing I love about analytics is you can pretty much spin anything to back your argument. My boss does exactly the same.
The thing I love about analytics is you can pretty much spin anything to back your argument. My boss does exactly the same.
Oct 19, 2023, 9:03 pm
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Those are decent but not actually formidable numbers - many airports have reported traffic increase in the 20%+ area between 2022 and 2023. Apart from Portland and Pittsburgh, this seems to be more in the 10-15% range.
Oct 20, 2023, 1:01 am
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Looking at passenger numbers alone is pretty meaningless. Airlines will be focused on a number of metrics, including load factors (which will account for changes in aircraft/capacity/frequency) and ultimately route profitability.
Oct 20, 2023, 1:21 am
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Indeed, and 10% to 15% growth may seem modest compared to some, but its not so modest when your load factor is in the high 80/90% area as many BA routes are in the summer. You cant sell what you dont have....
Oct 26, 2023, 2:29 pm
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In this case, without a view of capacity offered in each year and any cancellations caveated, the nos are not insightful. Absolute volumes without context aren't the best presentation format.
Oct 26, 2023, 3:42 pm
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PDX-LHR had a 98% load factor for the month of September. I see additional frequencies or larger aircraft in the future for this route. Summer 2x daily perhaps in a couple years time.
Nov 2, 2023, 5:01 pm
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Nov 3, 2023, 1:59 am
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