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Old Apr 5, 2023, 8:11 am
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Heidsieck in J soon being enhanced away?

We could be so lucky...

https://www.aluxurytravelblog.com/20...HWkkvXNQs8qcLU

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Old Apr 5, 2023, 8:18 am
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Not according to the article you linked to:


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Old Apr 5, 2023, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by Modo
We could be so lucky...

https://www.aluxurytravelblog.com/20...HWkkvXNQs8qcLU

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No, read the article!
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Old Apr 5, 2023, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you
No, read the article!
Soon and ?

Tongue was planted firmly in cheek.

And would have no complaints with such an enhancemenent.

Others may have noticed that Finnair are certainly enhancing away Champagne in J
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Old Apr 5, 2023, 10:37 am
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English sparkling wine sounds as enticing as 'American cheese', 'Saudi premium beer' or 'Managed by Transport for London'.

I'll keep the champagne, thanks.
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Old Apr 5, 2023, 10:38 am
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I think you would be surprised how good it is, I would keep an open mind?
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English sparkling wine sounds as enticing as 'American cheese', 'Saudi premium beer' or 'Managed by Transport for London'.

I'll keep the champagne, thanks.
FT snobbery alive and well I see.
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Originally Posted by 13901
English sparkling wine sounds as enticing as 'American cheese', 'Saudi premium beer' or 'Managed by Transport for London'.

I'll keep the champagne, thanks.
English bubbles are actually very good. I'm a Certified Sommelier, so I at least know something about wine. I don't think it would be as much of a downgrade as you would think.
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Old Apr 5, 2023, 10:41 am
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I think you would be surprised how good it is, I would keep an open mind?
I drank the previous two English wines they offered. One was in the Galleries lounge, the other onboard. Both were worse than a Coop Prosecco, or a Mercadona Cava. Let's be honest, there's a reason why good champagne commands the price that it does.
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Old Apr 5, 2023, 10:51 am
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Well having never tasted the lowest quality sparkling wine like yourself I cannot compare. 😂😂🤪
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Originally Posted by 13901
I drank the previous two English wines they offered. One was in the Galleries lounge, the other onboard. Both were worse than a Coop Prosecco, or a Mercadona Cava. Let's be honest, there's a reason why good champagne commands the price that it does.
some may say part of that price isn’t entirely linked to the quality of the content though.

I guess I would say you can find rubbish champagne as well - but it doesn’t mean all champagne is rubbish. Let’s see what it tastes like, and if it isn’t good we can criticise then?
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Not only are there some fine English Sparkling Wines, but those selected by BA for Club World are actually rather decent. It really is a rare, positive enhancement, and I’m looking forward to an in-flight tasting!
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Compared to Monopole Silver, I’m sure it will taste nectarous.
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Old Apr 5, 2023, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you
I think you would be surprised how good it is, I would keep an open mind?
I've tried many including the one served in F and two of the four listed in the article (the Simpsons and the Digby) and the Balfour blanc de blanc (admittedly not the one served here). I don't find any of them exciting myself (or surprising for that matter if I'm honest). Regardless of what you think of them, their style is very different from Champagne and indeed this is how it is intended so they won't replace it. There certainly is a form of Champagne snobbery whereby some people just see "Champagne" and think it must be good, but conversely, I personally think that there is very much a current market snobbery about English wines at the moment which I don't really share (and the good old 'I prefer a good sparkling to a bad Champagne') and which benefits English sparkling wines. There is more broadly a nationalistic "we do [whatever it is] just as well as [enter world leader in the field]" snobbery which affects virtually all countries and products. I have the same reservations about French whiskies, Spanish gins, Chinese 'Cognac' and so on. I don't find the Heidseck great either so personally, I'm sure some people will like it (good for them), but personally, I'll stick to the wines when there is a good one on offer, a Tanqueray and Tonic, or simply sparkling water.
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Old Apr 5, 2023, 12:23 pm
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I just ask for a beer and have done with it...
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