HFHFFlyer

I see from another thread that the return of the CCR card is a possibility.

It has occurred to me over the last few months that the GGL qualifications and benefits may get tinkered with as life returns to normal.

What changes would people like to see, and what existing services do you value most? For me, I value the following in this order:

GGL line
Jokers
Partner cards

I like the CCR and have got to know many of the wonderful staff over the years so I’d be sad to lose access when I fly short haul J, but in reality I can’t see me dropping below 5000 TPs per annum for the foreseeable future.

I do wonder if BA is contemplating a more dramatic change where GGL requires a higher number of TPs to retain it……

ISTFlyer

Could you please kindly share a link to the other thread you're mentioning. I am unable to find any thread related to this on the first 3 pages of the BA board.

SonicStar817

They are probably referencing this comment:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/35028208-post22.html

golfmad

Yes. Exactly.

Personally, I had no problem with the previous arrangement of 5,000 for the CCR card. I still don't really understand why it was changed.

bisonrav

Kept the riffraff out anyway

xenole

Probably to help out those who generally earned enough TPs for GGL and/or flew F for business etc., but couldn't do much during Covid. Make it a little easier to maintain what they are used to and hopefully they'll continue spending £££££ with you.

golfmad

Why not just use the temporarily lower thresholds or status extensions if that was the case (like with the other tiers)?

KARFA

And bear in mind I think all GGLs who were at that level in April 2020 should have been extended in to 2023 and therefore wouldn't be dropping in status until some point this year at the earliest.

xenole

BA logic.

VSLover

just end the BAH promo and let the levels return to pre-pandemic norms!

RichieMc

This is the biggest reason I think there might not actually be any imminent changes. BTW has anyone actually heard any chatter on this aside from us specualting among ourselves? As mentioned, lot of people who got extensions will start falling out (partly offset by people taking advantage of the double points promotion). Maybe I'm being too charitable, but you'd think BA would have thought this stuff through and were aware of the pretty obvious effects before they ditched the CCR card.

I'm also somewhat puzzled by the notion that the problem is the CCR being overcrowded. It doesn't seem massively worse than before the pandemic, not that I used it very much back then. There were always busy times of days and holiday periods. The only recent time I remember a serious issue was between christmas and new year that I saw a family group annoyed they couldn't get a dining table together and had to sit on one of the high-top tables.

Personally I'm feel I'm pretty safe with planned travel for the next couple of years, so not super stressed one way or another. But is it possible that by making the CCR so exclusive that while those who retain access always get a quiet spot to sit (I like the table right under the nose cone; other single travellers like to spread out and take a whole couch-cabana-tent thingy on the terasse), the place becomes so deserted that there are more staff than customers most of the time and BA cuts costs and therefore quality?

ratechaser

Nooooooooooo! What have us poor silvers ever done to you!

Pilot37

Given how poor the Chelsea lounge is vs. the old JFK CCR - I think a lot on here would have to question the value of trying to reach 5K (if that threshold is reinstated) for what is essentially now just the T5 CCR lounge in terms of value of the card!

Pilot37

xenole

Well, we all know BA, and it's inevitable some "enhancement" is coming.
They're like a Government who give you something with one hand but take something back with two hands.

The spend based earnings may reduce a few people who may have booked F redemptions.

To be honest, I'm not sure what difference an increase in GGLs makes? AS said, the CCR isn't much busier, if not the same, unless AA are having issues with GGLs and the Chelsea lounge for example? Maybe they want a discernible difference between a plain old GGL and a CCR card holder when comparing them to a CK?


Sure someone knows for sure what's on the cards.

LCY8737

I currently fly enough for BA GGL + Lufthansa Silver. I've been thinking for a while now that I might be better off with BA Gold + Lufthansa Gold. Removing some GGL benefits would make that decision a lot easier for me.

Let's see what will happen.