BA not selling a "route" (AA do, with BA Metal)
Jan 3, 2023, 7:28 am
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BA not selling a "route" (AA do, with BA Metal)
AA are selling seats: LHR-LAX-BNE, MEL-DFW/LAX-LHR. The LHR-LAX leg can be done on BA metal. (The US-AUS legs are done on Qantas)
I would prefer to book this via BA if possible, for disruption protection and possibility of doing double TP on a holiday booking.
However, BA only seem to route eastwards to BNE and MEL. Is this because of deals they have in place with Qatar and Qantas? or would BA sell me a ticket on this route if I called up?
I presume there are no BA flight numbers for LAX-BNE and MEL-DFW, so these would be excluded from the double TP offer anyway.
I would prefer to book this via BA if possible, for disruption protection and possibility of doing double TP on a holiday booking.
However, BA only seem to route eastwards to BNE and MEL. Is this because of deals they have in place with Qatar and Qantas? or would BA sell me a ticket on this route if I called up?
I presume there are no BA flight numbers for LAX-BNE and MEL-DFW, so these would be excluded from the double TP offer anyway.
Jan 3, 2023, 7:32 am
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AA are selling seats: LHR-LAX-BNE, MEL-DFW/LAX-LHR. The LHR-LAX leg can be done on BA metal. (The US-AUS legs are done on Qantas)
I would prefer to book this via BA if possible, for disruption protection and possibility of doing double TP on a holiday booking.
However, BA only seem to route eastwards to BNE and MEL. Is this because of deals they have in place with Qatar and Qantas? or would BA sell me a ticket on this route if I called up?
I presume there are no BA flight numbers for LAX-BNE and MEL-DFW, so these would be excluded from the double TP offer anyway.
I would prefer to book this via BA if possible, for disruption protection and possibility of doing double TP on a holiday booking.
However, BA only seem to route eastwards to BNE and MEL. Is this because of deals they have in place with Qatar and Qantas? or would BA sell me a ticket on this route if I called up?
I presume there are no BA flight numbers for LAX-BNE and MEL-DFW, so these would be excluded from the double TP offer anyway.
Jan 3, 2023, 7:37 am
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Jan 3, 2023, 7:41 am
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I also searched for LAX-BNE, MEL-DFW on BA.com- it does sell them, but back via LHR. eg- LAX-LHR-DOH-BNE!!
Interestingly, google flights finds my original routing, but ITA Matrix doesn't, unless I specify X:LAX in the advanced routing. Either way, BA don't show as a marketing airline, so I'm doubting it's possible.
The TPs are a very secondary consideration as travelling Economy, so not really much to chase, the price is the main attraction. Although the overall flight time is longer, there is still only 1 stop involved.
Jan 3, 2023, 7:53 am
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If you are talking about UK261, you will only be afforded that on the outward journey from the UK (and it will apply no matter the airline) and on the return only on any legs flown by BA. If this really is what you are trying to do, the only way to have the entire journey covered by UK 261 would be to take the BA flights from Sydney, instead of trying to fly from BNE or MEL.
Jan 3, 2023, 7:59 am
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If you are talking about UK261, you will only be afforded that on the outward journey from the UK (and it will apply no matter the airline) and on the return only on any legs flown by BA. If this really is what you are trying to do, the only way to have the entire journey covered by UK 261 would be to take the BA flights from Sydney, instead of trying to fly from BNE or MEL.
Was also curious as why BA don't sell this route and wondered if the commercial agreement with QR affected it.
Jan 3, 2023, 8:08 am
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BA does not publish through fares LHR-BNE which allow a routing via the western hemisphere. Fares are available but require routing via SIN, HKG or DOH.
BA can of course issue an AA fare, except LHR-BNE explicitly states it must be issued on AA or QF stock.
The only way I can think of having the BA plated is if you plan your whole journey either east or west any buy a BA issued round-the-world ticket. This, however, would be significantly more expensive that the AA/QF fares I am seeing which start at only GBP 308 plus taxes, fees and charges. An absolute bargain if you can stand 26 hours in an AA Eco seat.
BA can of course issue an AA fare, except LHR-BNE explicitly states it must be issued on AA or QF stock.
The only way I can think of having the BA plated is if you plan your whole journey either east or west any buy a BA issued round-the-world ticket. This, however, would be significantly more expensive that the AA/QF fares I am seeing which start at only GBP 308 plus taxes, fees and charges. An absolute bargain if you can stand 26 hours in an AA Eco seat.
Jan 3, 2023, 9:07 am
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ba fares to Australia typically won’t allow those routings anyway - only via the east and connections normally via sin, hkg (pre Covid at least), Kul (when Ba were flying there) and doh so even calling won’t be much help here.
Jan 3, 2023, 11:13 am
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CX / LH + SQ look competitive for dates next NH Autumn - so I'll keep it under review once my dates come on sale.
Jan 3, 2023, 11:15 am
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:23 am
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It’s not a ban per se, but you do have to collect your bags at your first port of entry, take them through customs, and then drop them off at the bag drop which is usually right outside customs. They will likely be tagged onward, but you do physically have to move them a bit.
Jan 3, 2023, 12:14 pm
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Of AA hubs that includes DFW and MIA (you still have to clear immigration and reclear security), but LAX, which the OP specifically mentions is not included, so would require clearing immigration, collecting bags, and then going back through security.