Spend-based Avios earning coming to BAEC in 2023
Oct 31, 2022, 8:03 am
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Spend-based Avios earning coming to BAEC in 2023
Iberia have announced they are changing how Iberia Plus members earn Avios when flying from the end of November, they are moving from distance based to spend based earning, 5-8 Avios per euro spent (excluding taxes and carrier charges!), depending on Iberia Plus level. The press release says BA will follow in 2023.
Press release: Iberia | Iberia Plus incorpora una nueva manera de acumular Avios
Some more Iberia details here: https://www.iberia.com/gb/iberiaplus/get-avios/
“Very shortly, the way you collect Avios on the tickets you buy will change. Instead of Avios being awarded for the miles flown, the method used until now, you will start collecting Avios for every eruo you spend,* according to your card level.”
CLÁSICA = 5 per €
PLATA = 6 per €
ORO = 7 per €
PLATINO, INFINITA & INFINITA PRIME = 8 per €
Press release: Iberia | Iberia Plus incorpora una nueva manera de acumular Avios
Ian Romanis, Head of Sales Management and Customer Relations at British Airways, added: "We congratulate our colleagues at Iberia on introducing this change and look forward to joining them in 2023. We will soon announce what this change will mean for our Executive Club programme, which will offer even more opportunities for our members to earn Avios when they fly."
“Very shortly, the way you collect Avios on the tickets you buy will change. Instead of Avios being awarded for the miles flown, the method used until now, you will start collecting Avios for every eruo you spend,* according to your card level.”
CLÁSICA = 5 per €
PLATA = 6 per €
ORO = 7 per €
PLATINO, INFINITA & INFINITA PRIME = 8 per €
Last edited by revorgap; Oct 31, 2022 at 8:51 am Reason: Fix link
Oct 31, 2022, 8:05 am
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Some previous recent discussion on this issue here Avios earning spend-based rather than distance (IB rumour)
Oct 31, 2022, 9:07 am
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It's currently possible to keep BAEC GGL for under £10K total spend (c. £7K in fares) - under the new revenue model that would earn 35,000 to 70,000 Avios (5 to 10 Avios per £). That would leave Amex 241 and upgrade vouchers difficult to use on long haul flights
Oct 31, 2022, 9:15 am
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Rob at HfP has very nicely summarised my thoughts on this. Loyalty programs are as much about shifting spare seats & rooms or attracting true discretionary spend (leisure & SME’s) as luring the big bucks corporate money on negotiated deals.
I’d also add that a move to essentially a fixed earning rate surely opens up the possibility that corporate negotiated fares cease to earn Avios. If I, as chief bean counter at Money Bank PLC, know that on every ticket I buy BA are handing out a flat 2.5-4% rebate to my employees then why would I not ask for that to be top sliced from the fare?
Edit: is this also the big change that CWS reported was signed off by the board pre-Covid?
I’d also add that a move to essentially a fixed earning rate surely opens up the possibility that corporate negotiated fares cease to earn Avios. If I, as chief bean counter at Money Bank PLC, know that on every ticket I buy BA are handing out a flat 2.5-4% rebate to my employees then why would I not ask for that to be top sliced from the fare?
Edit: is this also the big change that CWS reported was signed off by the board pre-Covid?
Oct 31, 2022, 9:22 am
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Oct 31, 2022, 9:24 am
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It's the taxes and fees element that will be potentially grim here. As a silver I earn about 3300-3600 Avios for a return trip to a standard European destination in CE (somewhere like OPO or ARN), which usually costs me somewhere in the £500 range. So assuming 7 Avios / £, I'd end up in a similar place. But taxes and fees can take up about half of that. I wouldn't be thrilled with a return of 1500 Avios for a CE return...
Oct 31, 2022, 9:25 am
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Hmm.
Just plugged in one of my popular routes and even at today’s elevated prices it’s about 17% fewer avios.
I may be doing this wrong but a quick lhr-Syd return costing £9.5k in mid November in J and D works out as ~9% fewer (after removing BA’s £1k in carrier charges) .
Just plugged in one of my popular routes and even at today’s elevated prices it’s about 17% fewer avios.
I may be doing this wrong but a quick lhr-Syd return costing £9.5k in mid November in J and D works out as ~9% fewer (after removing BA’s £1k in carrier charges) .
Oct 31, 2022, 9:36 am
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Oct 31, 2022, 9:40 am
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