1Aturnleft

It's still well below the UK national average.
It wasn't meant to come across as derogatory, more an example of when the salary isn't necessarily going to be perceived as great then its not necessarily a great advertising point..... which comes back to the whole "competitive salary" cloak of mystery.

Ghoulish

A range might be appropriate, but why would you offer the same salary to someone who may have more experience or additional skills of value to the company as someone who may be at an earlier stage of their career but still suitable for the position?

The better qualified candidate will likely not reply because the salary is too low, and the less qualified (but acceptable) candidate is certainly going to be aggrieved at being offered a lesser than advertised amount.

SteveinA2

My local McDonalds is offering $30K a year with no experience - and you get free food

Flyertalker001342

I think people are misreading what this job is for. Lazy me, I didn't click the link in the original post, which leads you to the actual job offering. Here's the top couple of paragraphs of the actual job listing:

"

Job Description

This is a key time to be joining British Airways as we Build a Better BA. We take huge pride in our past – but we’re looking to the future as an airline that loves embracing the best of modern Britain. Our country’s creativity, diversity, style, wit and warmth are the same special qualities that make us who we are. If you’re made of the same qualities as us, you could soon be part of the next chapter of our story. Together as one team, we’re connecting Britain with the world and the world to Britain like no one else

Join the dynamic Inflight Product team as Product Development Executive, reporting to the Product Development Manager. You will be responsible for the end to end of product development for a portfolio of products from initial concept to final implementation. You will liaise closely with all Inflight Product stakeholders to ensure products meet the service and safety requirements prior to testing and risk assessments."

"Inflight Products" could be most anything that the passenger is presented with, inflight, such as catering, drinks, etc., however in this context I think they are talking about inflight product SALES, e.g. what passes for inflight "duty free" sales offered out of the rolling trollies, possibly to include inflight meals and food that can be purchased by economy class passengers who don't get free food and drinks, although I doubt that they are including this.

The first paragraph is just fluff; the actual job is described in the second paragraph.

I doubt that this position being advertised for has anything much to do with what we in these forums would term to be the "inflight experience."

irishguy28

Given that this poor sod will be "responsible for the end to end of product development for a portfolio of products from initial concept to final implementation" that's going to be an awful lot of work. They would have to come up with an "initial concept" for the entire range of in-flight merchandise - perfumes, cosmetics, jewellery, alcoholic drinks, gifts, etc - see them through realisation, test and manufacture, and then somehow have them displace the established brands that are currently sold on board.

Seems like unnecessary re-invention of the wheel.

Will100

Out of interest what does the band 3 range look like?

guv1976

Whenever someone mentions an "exciting" opportunity, I immediately think back to the Seinfeld episode in which George goes to the optical shop to order new glasses, and mistakenly picks out a lady's frame. Instead of correcting him, the optician says, "Oh, we just got those in. It's a very exciting new frame."

ermis177

The issue is that BA will find someone desperate to do it with no/little experience and no idea what they are doing. We have seen the results many times before. Look for example the “Best of British” disaster. Poor food options, spelling mistakes, U.K. flag next to tiramisu and Black Forest, sausage rolls as light meals.

kingcole974

In my neck of the woods (Brighton) that seems to be the wage offered for a bus driver. Seems an appropriate place to advertise it too!

wutlol

A McDonalds most junior position at the one down the road from me is $40k+ a year. The one on IoM is probably half that in pounds.

Makes me realize how truly out of it current college grads in the States are when they expect $100k min regardless of degree.

crazy8534

I believe that these are the BA “head office bands” and band 3 is roughly graduate entry level £30-60k. I don’t work for BA so someone else might be able to answer better.

Raffles

I'd like to nominate the young woman who served me on my CE Gatwick flight last night, who was insistent that she bring me ice for my champagne, even after I pointed out - as an attempt to put her off - that the ice cubes wouldn't even fit in the tiny BA champagne glasses.

Kid was so young I doubt anyone has ever given her a glass of champagne, she potentially wasn't even legally old enough to drink one.

subject2load

I guess there is a wider debate to be had where an ‘exciting opportunity’ role involves any part of the customer experience.

Salary level is in truth only one element within the bigger picture, and perhaps too much attention is being devoted to whatever the precise figure might be. You could offer enough money & benefits to attract the very highest calibre of candidates, but of course that in itself is absolutely no guarantee of good outcomes for either the successful applicant or for the paying customer. So much revolves around available day-to-day resources and operating budgets - and the degree to which these may be constrained by edict of the CEO and his exec management team.

By way of example, I’d wager that the job description / core responsibilities for Head of Catering would include (amongst other things) some fluffy marketing-style waffle about the ‘creation and delivery of superior inflight products and presentation standards, rigorously designed to meet the expectations of our demanding premium cabin customers’. But then you only need look at photos over on the current CW catering thread, as evidence of real-world results once cost cutting is given more focus than quality.

flybymonkey

I would say the £30-50k maybe £60k at push depending on the applicant.

HarryHolden68

No idea, but the London Living wage @ £10.85 per hour places a 40 hour per week employee on just shy of £23k.

I might enjoy this role as a challenge but would probably last no more than 5 minutes into the first Exec presentation where after having my proposal declined on the grounds of cost, would have my say and then be invited to leave. Reminds me of the line from The Sum of all Fears when Morgan Freeman whispers to Ben Affleck "When I asked for your opinion I didn't mean for you to actually speak".