30 Jun 22: 30 flights cancelled because LHR can't cope
#31
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It is worth noting that many key third parties are also struggling which adds to the customer facing airline bearing the brunt of criticism.
Yesterday my 16:20 flight from NCL to LHR was boarded and ready for push back before the flight crew were advised due to ATC staff shortages our slot would be for a 20:50 departure.
Happily the crew persisted with the "we are ready to go" and slowly earlier slot times were achieved (as they do, perhaps the FO should have kept us less informed about the extent of the possible delay!). We eventually landed at LHR at 19:11.
Lots of missed connections and more chaos for the airline despite this not being of their making.
Yesterday my 16:20 flight from NCL to LHR was boarded and ready for push back before the flight crew were advised due to ATC staff shortages our slot would be for a 20:50 departure.
Happily the crew persisted with the "we are ready to go" and slowly earlier slot times were achieved (as they do, perhaps the FO should have kept us less informed about the extent of the possible delay!). We eventually landed at LHR at 19:11.
Lots of missed connections and more chaos for the airline despite this not being of their making.
#32
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My LHR-AMS flight tomorrow has just been cancelled. I fully expected this as yesterday's and todays flight at that time were also cancelled short notice. Rebooking wasn't simple as many of the alternative flights were full. Now going from LCY nearly 4 hours later.
#33
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- Contact all passengers to encourage HBO trips wherever possible for the remainder of this summer. Perhaps offer some Avios as a reward for giving up a checked bag.
HAL want you to take as little hand baggage as you can so you can buy as much duty free and other stuff as possible.
BA want to reduce the load on their baggage handlers so they’d prefer you take only hand baggage and check nothing.
So what if as well as BA offering bonus Avios for not checking bags, HAL could offer particularly copious Heathrow Rewards for buying large quantities of duty free?
#34
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I'm now sat here waiting for a Luxair flight instead (at my expense for now but will be chasing up with BA)
#35
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How much of the ground handling and baggage delay is caused by HMG following a Walsh-Cruz approach to staffing the civil service, so that the part responsible for carrying out the security checks needed for cannot cope with current demand, leading to delays in deploying sufficient baggage handlers, for example, to meet current demand.
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I bought a book from Amazon a few weeks ago. Despite being an English language book, produced by a major UK publisher for the UK market, not particularly obscure, Amazon nevertheless stocked it in their warehouse in Madrid. I ordered it on Monday, Tuesday it was in East Midlands Airport (off a cargo flight) , Wednesday it was in my particularly obscure corner of England. Maybe BA could look at linking Airportr with cargo flights. Collect your bag on day1, or even drop it off at designated locations, it will be in your hotel in MAD / NYC / FRA / BeNeLux when you arrive on day 3. Now there will be what-ifs, but air cargo sector was not hit by COVID-19 as much as the rest of the aviation industry so is currently better placed than passenger services.
#37
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After arriving (without delays) back yesterday evening on the flight from Rome, which landed around 9.45pm, I received both an email and a text message at around 1am this morning to let me know that they could not deliver my baggage, including the line "We know we’ve let you down, but we wanted to let you know as soon as possible so that you don’t wait in the baggage hall. "
Two issues with this: first, by this point I would have been stood in the baggage hall for 3 hours and second, I didn't have any hold baggage.
Definitely some investment needed....
Two issues with this: first, by this point I would have been stood in the baggage hall for 3 hours and second, I didn't have any hold baggage.
Definitely some investment needed....
#38
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With this and all other similar threads in mind, I wonder if my decision to go with U2 out of LTN next week (rather than BA out of LHR) will end up being a smart move or not... frankly it's all guesswork right now
I won't appreciate having given up my lounge privileges if it's equally bad on the other side of the fence...
I won't appreciate having given up my lounge privileges if it's equally bad on the other side of the fence...
#39
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I don’t recall “ the old ba “ being anything aspirational. Did it work - yes but the soft product was out dated , the planes old and the staff variable. They are - very slowly - ditching the ying Yang seats and buying nee planes. The IT will likely never recover as they have an old system and seem to wallow in complexity.
The recovery of leisure travel was entirely predictable. Business travel ( and I have no idea how much of that thee is now ) was the main thing likely to be replaced with zoom.
whilst it will hurt they all need to cut services to run an efficient airline. Where I do feel for them js they do there bit and then the airport / atc don’t do theirs. Heathrow is and always has been a national disgrace
The recovery of leisure travel was entirely predictable. Business travel ( and I have no idea how much of that thee is now ) was the main thing likely to be replaced with zoom.
whilst it will hurt they all need to cut services to run an efficient airline. Where I do feel for them js they do there bit and then the airport / atc don’t do theirs. Heathrow is and always has been a national disgrace
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#41
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We may need to think of more radical solutions.
I bought a book from Amazon a few weeks ago. Despite being an English language book, produced by a major UK publisher for the UK market, not particularly obscure, Amazon nevertheless stocked it in their warehouse in Madrid. I ordered it on Monday, Tuesday it was in East Midlands Airport (off a cargo flight) , Wednesday it was in my particularly obscure corner of England. Maybe BA could look at linking Airportr with cargo flights. Collect your bag on day1, or even drop it off at designated locations, it will be in your hotel in MAD / NYC / FRA / BeNeLux when you arrive on day 3. Now there will be what-ifs, but air cargo sector was not hit by COVID-19 as much as the rest of the aviation industry so is currently better placed than passenger services.
I bought a book from Amazon a few weeks ago. Despite being an English language book, produced by a major UK publisher for the UK market, not particularly obscure, Amazon nevertheless stocked it in their warehouse in Madrid. I ordered it on Monday, Tuesday it was in East Midlands Airport (off a cargo flight) , Wednesday it was in my particularly obscure corner of England. Maybe BA could look at linking Airportr with cargo flights. Collect your bag on day1, or even drop it off at designated locations, it will be in your hotel in MAD / NYC / FRA / BeNeLux when you arrive on day 3. Now there will be what-ifs, but air cargo sector was not hit by COVID-19 as much as the rest of the aviation industry so is currently better placed than passenger services.
How much of the ground handling and baggage delay is caused by HMG following a Walsh-Cruz approach to staffing the civil service, so that the part responsible for carrying out the security checks needed for cannot cope with current demand, leading to delays in deploying sufficient baggage handlers, for example, to meet current demand.
The problem is the pass issue unit over at HAL. That'll be a whole different matter... Right now I can see no appointments available this side of November, by which time I'll need a new record check!
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Is there a particular reason HAL isn’t trying to resource the pass unit better? All airlines and other airside companies must be desperate to get that sorted and must be hammering HAL to sort it as a matter of urgency.
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With this and all other similar threads in mind, I wonder if my decision to go with U2 out of LTN next week (rather than BA out of LHR) will end up being a smart move or not... frankly it's all guesswork right now
I won't appreciate having given up my lounge privileges if it's equally bad on the other side of the fence...
I won't appreciate having given up my lounge privileges if it's equally bad on the other side of the fence...
#44
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Never been so happy to hear those Rolls Royce engines spool up at 500 feet!
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The one baffling thing in this thread is the suggestion that Easyjet are much better. I am avoiding them at the moment as lots of my colleagues have had very short notice cancellations at the airport, where the app freezes, the staff all magically disappear and where at that point you are basically on your own in terms of rebooking (and accommodation if needed).…