BA - why are you so hard to love?
#32
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold, A3 Gold
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FWIW and not the OP. I booked BA LHR-ATH for June in CE last week. Slightly more expensive than A3 (in business again).
BA has cancelled my return flight and rebooked me on a flight that’s essentially 30 hours earlier than my original one.
i managed to get through to someone after 1 hour and 20 minutes of waiting. To accept a rebook in economy on the same date of my flight would cost Ł600 on top per person of an already expensive CE ticket. Otherwise they can only keep me on the flight they rebooked me on and which I didn’t consent to. Or I can accept a refund, which is not a refund in cash but a voucher.
If we have reached the point where BA is deemed to be as reliable as Ryanair or the other low cost carriers then fine, duly noted and will be taken into account when making future bookings. The prices however are not in any way shape or form (even in economy) competitive by any sense of the word. In fact they carry a significant premium.
BA has cancelled my return flight and rebooked me on a flight that’s essentially 30 hours earlier than my original one.
i managed to get through to someone after 1 hour and 20 minutes of waiting. To accept a rebook in economy on the same date of my flight would cost Ł600 on top per person of an already expensive CE ticket. Otherwise they can only keep me on the flight they rebooked me on and which I didn’t consent to. Or I can accept a refund, which is not a refund in cash but a voucher.
If we have reached the point where BA is deemed to be as reliable as Ryanair or the other low cost carriers then fine, duly noted and will be taken into account when making future bookings. The prices however are not in any way shape or form (even in economy) competitive by any sense of the word. In fact they carry a significant premium.
#33
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To accept a rebook in economy on the same date of my flight would cost Ł600 on top per person of an already expensive CE ticket. Otherwise they can only keep me on the flight they rebooked me on and which I didn’t consent to. Or I can accept a refund, which is not a refund in cash but a voucher.
Anyway, as your flight is so far away, one option might be to leave it and wait for space to open up on a more acceptable flight before you rebook.
#34
Join Date: May 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 456
Spanish Company
why are the first reactions to this post "fly something else then"? I don't get it.
there are many reasons to fly BA. the network, the flight times, maybe even a Brit wants to support British Companies.... I can imagine a bazillion reasons for someone to prefer BA.
Can't we just focus on the objections he made?
there are many reasons to fly BA. the network, the flight times, maybe even a Brit wants to support British Companies.... I can imagine a bazillion reasons for someone to prefer BA.
Can't we just focus on the objections he made?
#35
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: JAX
Programs: Ex-BA/AA/CP/LY staff, BA Executive Club Blue, IHG Diamond, Marriott Silver, Chick-fil-A Red
Posts: 3,587
No, BA isn't my parent, but with my grandmother, both of my parents, myself, and my father in law having worked for them with over 90 years combined service, it is a family thing...
So some weirdos, like me, have a deeper emotional connection to BA than is sensible...
#36
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 218
FWIW and not the OP. I booked BA LHR-ATH for June in CE last week. Slightly more expensive than A3 (in business again).
BA has cancelled my return flight and rebooked me on a flight that’s essentially 30 hours earlier than my original one.
i managed to get through to someone after 1 hour and 20 minutes of waiting. To accept a rebook in economy on the same date of my flight would cost Ł600 on top per person of an already expensive CE ticket. Otherwise they can only keep me on the flight they rebooked me on and which I didn’t consent to. Or I can accept a refund, which is not a refund in cash but a voucher.
If we have reached the point where BA is deemed to be as reliable as Ryanair or the other low cost carriers then fine, duly noted and will be taken into account when making future bookings. The prices however are not in any way shape or form (even in economy) competitive by any sense of the word. In fact they carry a significant premium.
BA has cancelled my return flight and rebooked me on a flight that’s essentially 30 hours earlier than my original one.
i managed to get through to someone after 1 hour and 20 minutes of waiting. To accept a rebook in economy on the same date of my flight would cost Ł600 on top per person of an already expensive CE ticket. Otherwise they can only keep me on the flight they rebooked me on and which I didn’t consent to. Or I can accept a refund, which is not a refund in cash but a voucher.
If we have reached the point where BA is deemed to be as reliable as Ryanair or the other low cost carriers then fine, duly noted and will be taken into account when making future bookings. The prices however are not in any way shape or form (even in economy) competitive by any sense of the word. In fact they carry a significant premium.
#37
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: Executive Club
Posts: 1,115
I have finally given up on BA but have to say I have thought long and hard about it. Travelling long haul to a third world country on my own for business is always a bit stressful. Will I forget something? Will I get stuck somewhere? Will my bags turn up? So any part of that journey which is familiar and known I tend to stick with. I think that's the reason I have stuck with BA despite the service getting worse and the prices getting sky high.
But after one too many times on hold and after one too many disgusting meals on board and one too many apologies and nothing changes I finally have decided I am out. Interestingly I spoke to Amex about this this week and the lady said she was aware of many customers moving away from BA as they are so unhappy.
But after one too many times on hold and after one too many disgusting meals on board and one too many apologies and nothing changes I finally have decided I am out. Interestingly I spoke to Amex about this this week and the lady said she was aware of many customers moving away from BA as they are so unhappy.
#38
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I have finally given up on BA but have to say I have thought long and hard about it. Travelling long haul to a third world country on my own for business is always a bit stressful. Will I forget something? Will I get stuck somewhere? Will my bags turn up? So any part of that journey which is familiar and known I tend to stick with. I think that's the reason I have stuck with BA despite the service getting worse and the prices getting sky high.
But after one too many times on hold and after one too many disgusting meals on board and one too many apologies and nothing changes I finally have decided I am out. Interestingly I spoke to Amex about this this week and the lady said she was aware of many customers moving away from BA as they are so unhappy.
But after one too many times on hold and after one too many disgusting meals on board and one too many apologies and nothing changes I finally have decided I am out. Interestingly I spoke to Amex about this this week and the lady said she was aware of many customers moving away from BA as they are so unhappy.
#39
Join Date: Apr 2010
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#40
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If this is less than T - 14 then refuse all options,ask them to book you into the class and flight you want to go on, and if they refuse book and pay for it yourself and CEDR the cost back plus some extra for your time and trouble. Make sure you don't agree even inadvertently to an option you don't want.
#41
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Posts: 1,115
#42
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
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I have finally given up on BA but have to say I have thought long and hard about it. Travelling long haul to a third world country on my own for business is always a bit stressful. Will I forget something? Will I get stuck somewhere? Will my bags turn up? So any part of that journey which is familiar and known I tend to stick with. I think that's the reason I have stuck with BA despite the service getting worse and the prices getting sky high.
But after one too many times on hold and after one too many disgusting meals on board and one too many apologies and nothing changes I finally have decided I am out. Interestingly I spoke to Amex about this this week and the lady said she was aware of many customers moving away from BA as they are so unhappy.
But after one too many times on hold and after one too many disgusting meals on board and one too many apologies and nothing changes I finally have decided I am out. Interestingly I spoke to Amex about this this week and the lady said she was aware of many customers moving away from BA as they are so unhappy.
I’m just wondering whether your despair ever reached the point where you found yourself saying “Come back Alex, all is (almost) forgiven” Or was it never quite that bad for you …….
#43
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Newquay
Programs: BA Silver, TAP Gold, Hilton Diamond
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But the vast majority of its employees are UK nationals or residents, large parts of its supply chain are set in the UK and BA is headquartered in the UK. The main airport hub is in the UK, all aircraft are registered in the UK and IAG is also listed on the LSE. If we were to be pedantic, 25% of IAG is owned by Qatar Airways anyway.
I don't think it's wrong to consider BA (and VS or EZY for that matter) as a British airline.
I don't think it's wrong to consider BA (and VS or EZY for that matter) as a British airline.
Last edited by MatJarosz; Apr 30, 2022 at 3:13 am Reason: SPAG
#44
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
Programs: BAEC Gold / Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,545
The holding company is Spanish but BA is still in the UK creating jobs and wealth, not just through employment but all the services and products from local suppliers etc. Many people rely on BA for their family income and it is good that it prospers rather than declines, at least for the local economy. If all the slots were owned by Emirates, Qatar, AA and Delta, I'd be sure to predict that the head offices and associated jobs would not be in the UK. While I'm not suggesting that you are actually saying don't use BA because it's Spanish, the Spanish company argument is, IMO, a really weak reason for not flying BA. What next, stop using a laptop because Microsoft is American and stop driving a car because VW is German? BA has a lot to answer for indeed and they need to get back to being an employer of choice with better pay and benefits, but if they fail and fold I'm sure people would look back at what's been lost and regret it.
#45
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Perth WA/ UK
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Posts: 1,750
I think the op said at the outset that the aircraft was not busy and he was actually the only one with someone next to him? I think that would annoy me also as Gold.....even with Qantas the other day..flight pretty rammed (domestic) but they blocked the middle seat in my row.