Jean-Baptiste Legrand

Flew on BA 109 to Dubai in PE last night. A handful of pax in PE were openly flouting flight safety instructions by walking around the cabin while the plane was taxiing, not wearing masks for the ENTIRE flight, barging into the CW cabin to grab Club Kitchen snacks and use the bathroom whenever they wished, and so on. A young French couple seated in the bassinet section were the most flagrant and shameless offenders. FAs tried to request them to get with the program a couple times (after we repeatedly pressed them to do so) but they just waved away the FAs arrogantly and so the FAs just gave up. I have never seen such behavior tolerated on any US airline. US FAs are very strict with enforcing regulations, and most US pax (except the most drunken or drugged-up ones) know better than to disobey the FAs. Are BA FAs always this "tolerant" with pax that misbehave?

Bohinjska Bistrica

Other than have the plane met by the police when it lands, what other choice is there here? The aircraft won't be diverted because a few people didn't wear a mask or were disobedient but not violent.

I guess you could administer a lesson by cancelling their return ticket, but that's an issue for once the plane has landed.

PGberkshire

Dubai use to be a luxury only destination, however it is now so full of basics / instagram noobs. The behaviour of people going there represents 18-30 holidays like Ayia Napa / Magaluf etc

orbitmic

I would say no - I have seen BA staff and those on other European airlines be fairly firm. In extreme cases, I believe that all are also trained to use restraints should passengers be dangerous to themselves or others. In general, if you find that some passengers are being disruptive (for instance because they refuse to wear masks, regularly come into your cabin without being invited by the crew, or are being drunk or loud), I think you should have a quite word with a crew member explaining to them that those people are ruining your flight experience and it will be up to the crew to police it (or tell you if they feel that the behaviour thta you find unacceptable is not in their view).

That said, I don't think that outside of the US and Russia, anyone goes for the harsh school teacher (or dominatrix ) style of cabin crewing. (and which is by no means embraced by all crew members - I have had some incredibly gentle and charming crew on both US and Russian airlines as a matter of fact). Crew will more likely say something quietly/subtly to overly "active" passengers. Incidentally, it is also on both US and Russian airlines that I have seen, by far, the worst cases of air rage, so I wouldn't assume that the "tough" style necessarily produces the best results.

DYKWIA

Complete nonsense. I'm there now and haven't seen any anti social behaviour. No doubt it goes on occasionally, but it's much worse in any UK city. Behaviour that you mention would lead to people being locked up...

PGberkshire

You most likely do not hang around in the circles I am describing.....don't get me wrong, plenty of luxury in Dubai - of course, but hotels like Five Palm have such a terrible reputation - its fake gangsters and low end drug dealer central in the summer months. the Quality of people going there isn't great....

Duck1981

I agree. I have been with work colleagues at the V (is that how the hotel name is written?) and we were surrounded by escort ladies after 11pm. And I really mean surrounded and aggressively asked if we like to have fun.

Was too much, even for me. But many of the other guests who looked like 3rd league footballers enjoyed it.

CKBA

In the US I've definately seen pax being escorted off the plane once landed. Even if they don't get charged, the fact that somwone took action, potential humiliation being escorted off the plane and being delayed whilst being questioned probably would deter repeat behaviour for most folks.

13901

Dubai and Vegas have historically been two of the worst routes for anti-social behaviour in the network. Aircrafts on those routes would be routinely thrashed. What the OP witnessed is hardly surprising behaviour. Dubai sure has a "high end" aspect, but it's also the place to be for yobbos from most of Eurasia, from Dublin to Nur-Sultan.

Can I help you

Dubai has for the last 25 attracted the worst kind of people, obviously there are some exceptions and I would never contemplate a holiday there.
As for the crew, if they cannot manage these types of disruptive passengers they shouldn’t be in the job!

inet32

I flew a KLM flight AMS - JNB in November a few days before Omicron was announced and the FA'as were very lax about enforcing masking among passengers and only did so halfheartedly when my GF and I insisted.

On the return - DL201 JNB-ATL (with a refueling stop in MIA because the plane was full) a couple of weeks AFTER Omicron was discovered one of the Delta FA'a never wore her mask in the galley area at all and another FA had her nose out when she was doing the meal service.

inet32

They're probably not getting support from their management.

inet32

That's because it's not tough enough. It they understood that they will never fly in that country's airspace ever again I'll bet they'd quiet down and behave. Unruly passengers should be permanently banned.

jamesreid978

As soon as I saw the thread title, I knew a post like this would be within a couple of replys.

The % of people you describe is very low in Dubai, but regular behaviour doesn't make for interesting instagram posts, flyertalk threads, news articles, etc. As pointed out by DYKWIA, the behaviour is much worse in most UK cities.

DYKWIA

And.... Dubai has never been a "Luxury Only" destination. There are litterally hundreds of low and medium end hotels.