Traveling to and in France - Health Pass

Old Sep 28, 2021, 1:38 am
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Traveling to and in France - Health Pass

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To keep this vaguely BA related I am flying BA LHR-LYS on Monday and as a double vaccinated person understand I don't need any tests just my NHS certificate and a health deceleration form. My return will be Friday CDG-LHR and as I understand it I just need my vaccination certificate and PLF form with a LFT on day 2.

Now internally I will be flying LYS-NTS and this is where I am confused. Many sites say I need a French Health Passport which I have applied for but can take 20 days!! Apparently you need this for bars etc. The French government site however has this statement

"If you have been vaccinated in one of the following countries European Union Member States, Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, Switzerland, United Kingdom (England and Wales only) your country issues an EU Digital COVID Certificate which is accepted in France, or, in the case of the United Kingdom, a digital format also accepted in France. In that case, you do not need to convert your COVID certificate."

Does anybody know if the NHS App and QR code is enough?
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 1:44 am
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Morning,
You'll need to download and install the "TousAntiCovid" app on your mobile phone (available from the UK app store). Then you can scan a recent NHS QR code into the App.

This is then scanned and recognised in restaurants, bars and on trains, etc.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 1:46 am
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I came back on Sunday from a few days in Paris and it was extremely simple. Download https://bonjour.tousanticovid.gouv.fr/ which is the French Anti-Covid App and you can upload a photo of your NHS vaccine QR code which will be met by sparklers and streamers to demonstrate it is accepted as proof. You then just show that instead of the NHS App at any bar. We had an issue with seeing Jamie Cullum in concert but we got sent to another security post where they re-scanned the Tous App and it was approved. They seem to like the Tous App rather than the NHS App although I think technically you can do both.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 1:48 am
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MANY THANKS!

All done, it took minutes. So much easier than going through all the BS Website info.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 1:49 am
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Just note on your return (unless the rules have changed by then) you will need an antigen test taken up to 72 hours before boarding your flight - they were very strict at CDG at check-in (or at the gate for those who went straight through security) about seeing prof of the result.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 1:52 am
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Also note that your Day 2 test back in the UK still has to be a PCR, booked in advance.

It hasnt yet been announced exactly when thatll change to a Lateral Flow.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 1:52 am
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Originally Posted by starlight
Just note on your return (unless the rules have changed by then) you will need an antigen test taken up to 72 hours before boarding your flight - they were very strict at CDG at check-in (or at the gate for those who went straight through security) about seeing prof of the result.
I believe those rules are changing as of 4am on the 4th of Oct so I should be OK. I have one in my bag I can take anyway.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 2:25 am
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I found the app excellent, it verified straight away with NHS Covid Vax QRs. Only issue I had at one restaurant was it did not show the green verified status for some reason. They checked the original vax cert and seemed satisfied. At check in T5, the agent was not originally accepting the NHS vax cert for travel, but was requesting one from doctor - need to call and request ? After a few calls she did, but was not very obliging on this front.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 3:06 am
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Perhaps I am just dim but you need to be clear on one thing.

You must scan BOTH of your vaccine codes into the French app. If you just scan one, it gives the impression you are sorted but you are not. It will be rejected when scanned. You need to add both bar codes.

Note also that venues which have not updated the software on their scanners will still reject your pass - looking at you, Musee Carnavalet, last week.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by Raffles
Perhaps I am just dim but you need to be clear on one thing.

You must scan BOTH of your vaccine codes into the French app. If you just scan one, it gives the impression you are sorted but you are not. It will be rejected when scanned. You need to add both bar codes.

Note also that venues which have not updated the software on their scanners will still reject your pass - looking at you, Musee Carnavalet, last week.
Actually, you shouldn't need that - it should be enough to scan the last vaccine which should already include information that this is the second dose and includes all additional information that should be required.

Pass sanitaire et vaccination au Royaume-Uni - France in the United Kingdom - La France au Royaume-Uni (ambafrance.org)

One caveat is that to be valid, the second dose must have been taken at least 7 days after the second dose (or 4 weeks if vaccinated with single dose vaccine).
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 4:11 am
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I live here. The NHS certificate and app works fine here in France, but it has to be the second certificate. The first will not work. Why the NHS did not roll them both together into one q code is beyond me so assume that someone was making money out of it not being so.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 4:12 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
Actually, you shouldn't need that - it should be enough to scan the last vaccine which should already include information that this is the second dose and includes all additional information that should be required.
That has been my experience too. If you try to scan the first vaccination, it will return "invalid" in the verification app. However, if you just scan the second vaccination, it will scan "valid". Incidentally, if you download the paper certificate from the NHS app, it will work just as well without a need to download the TousAntiCovid app. The TAC app is clearly handier in not requiring you to carry around a piece of paper but it is not essential. I assume that a download of your certificate as pdf on your phone should work as well (it is the same QR code) but I have not tried. Just make sure that you show the QR code for the second vaccination and not the first.
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 4:27 am
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I am travelling to NCE (after 4th October), I am double-vaccinated, and I have TousAntiCovid all set up with my NHS QR codes, etc. I am confident I have what I need for airport & border formalities. (I will also be carrying a print out of the NHS PDF, and I have the NHS app installed - so 2 back-up!)

QUESTION - Once in France, when visiting hotels, restaurants, shops etc - in practice, will I regularly be asked to show the TousAntiCovid QR code, or is it mostly not needed or ignored in small venues? (I do not plan to go to any large events/concerts/nightclubs, etc. and unlikely to go to museums.)

(Sorry, haven't been outside UK since Feb 2020, so feeling a bit rusty!!!)
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 4:28 am
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I was in France with my QR code (2nd vaccine one) uploaded to the TousAntiCovid app at the beginning of this month and was denied entry to two bars as the code wouldn't scan. Problem appeared to be that the software on the TAC Verif app used by some establishments to validate the code hadn't been updated. Sitting outside on a restaurant terrace the police checked all diners' QR codes and while mine wouldn't scan, they were satisfied enough reading paper certificate. Last week the TAC Verif app was updated and my code now scans fine (I had downloaded the verification app itself just to check whether my code was now readable).
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Old Sep 28, 2021, 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by beardedgeologist
I am travelling to NCE (after 4th October), I am double-vaccinated, and I have TousAntiCovid all set up with my NHS QR codes, etc. I am confident I have what I need for airport & border formalities. (I will also be carrying a print out of the NHS PDF, and I have the NHS app installed - so 2 back-up!)

QUESTION - Once in France, when visiting hotels, restaurants, shops etc - in practice, will I regularly be asked to show the TousAntiCovid QR code, or is it mostly not needed or ignored in small venues? (I do not plan to go to any large events/concerts/nightclubs, etc. and unlikely to go to museums.)

(Sorry, haven't been outside UK since Feb 2020, so feeling a bit rusty!!!)
You will be asked for it every time you want to sit down to eat or drink, every time you go into a cultural venue, in major shopping centres in many parts of the country, when taking long distance public transport (e.g. domestic flights) and in many other venues.

It is compulsory by law, small or large venue makes no difference (except for shops) and in my experience, it is thoroughly respected (though I'm sure some people must ignore it, but they could get in huge trouble if they do).
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