Probably there wouldn't be any surprises, but at the moment there is no 100% official confirmation that UK citizens would be able to travel to Portugal as currently Portugal doesn't accept UK citizens at this time.
However, probably this would change next week after EU's decision has been announced. |
Originally Posted by mustafina
(Post 33235204)
I'd suggest this plan is only doable if US ends up on the green list, or the self-isolation rules change. Currently you must not leave the place where you're self-isolating (unless you have an exemption) for 10 days, so travelling to England after 3 days is not allowed. There's no test to release option in Scotland. The tests are sent to the address where you declare you'll be self-isolating.
https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...el-quarantine/ If you did the trip in reverse, in England you could do a test to release on Day 5, but would still need to take the Day 8 test, which I guess would be sent to the same address. On arrival in Scotland you'd need to complete your 10 days of self-isolation. On your final point, I wouldn't bank on getting the Day 8 test result back in time for your return trip - there have been reports of really poor service from some of the government-approved test providers with results taking days and sometimes never arriving at all. You'd also need to confirm that the paperwork they provide is acceptable for entry to the US. Actually, after reading the COVID Testing Package requirements at that orange airline (for my GLA-LTN return to England) the second test required that it be performed on, or AFTER the 8th day. In theory leave Scotland on day 10 and take the 2nd test upon arrival |
Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
(Post 33236198)
I am going to be working to the leaving before two day rule which I was told about thanks to Flyertalk and the people here whose knowledge is encyclopedic. Frankly, I resent the fortune that these Day 2 and 8 cost so I will just avoid being there. |
Originally Posted by englisha
(Post 33236561)
I also live outside the UK in an 'amber' country. Am I right in understanding from your post that as far as the UK rules are concerned, if I spend less than 48 hours in the UK, the only test required would be the one to present to the airline/ UK passport control on arrival, taken in my country of departure.
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Originally Posted by englisha
(Post 33236561)
I also live outside the UK in an 'amber' country. Am I right in understanding from your post that as far as the UK rules are concerned, if I spend less than 48 hours in the UK, the only test required would be the one to present to the airline/ UK passport control on arrival, taken in my country of departure.
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Originally Posted by Reetmafreen
(Post 33236446)
Thank you for the reply. I had made the assumption that leaving the country was allowed before the self isolation period was up. My inbound itinerary is LAX-LHR-GLA and I’d technically be leaving Scotland after the 3rd day. Oh well. Best case is that the US makes the green list before I depart. Worst case (well apart from it ending up on the red list) is that it stays Amber, then I see my return LHR-SAN flight getting canned, giving me the opportunity to switch some flights around. I would pull the inbound forward a few days, stay in England until TTR, fly up to Scotland and I don’t mind serving the remainder of my 10 isolation period up there and then fly back to England a few days later. The only wrinkles are that BA allows me to treat the LHR-GLA as a stop over and I fly a few days after arriving in England and what to do about the 8th day test.
Actually, after reading the COVID Testing Package requirements at that orange airline (for my GLA-LTN return to England) the second test required that it be performed on, or AFTER the 8th day. In theory leave Scotland on day 10 and take the 2nd test upon arrival This isn't a BA-specific question and I'd recommend checking with the good people on the Coronavirus forum. This thread might be useful: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2016518-uk-arrivals-requirements-pre-departure-test-quarantine-post-arrival-tests.html Hope you manage to make it work. It's tough to be separated from family for this long. |
Actually I think legally Reetmafreen can do what is suggested - albeit I am not sure that is an intended consequence of the law. They must remain in self isolation at the address in Scotland but are allowed to leave the address to depart Scotland prior to the end of the 10 day period, and they must continue the rest of the self isolation in England. I think you would also need to submit a new plf on the move in order to update the self isolation address.
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Originally Posted by Reetmafreen
(Post 33234974)
Are the 2 and 8 day tests done at a medical facility, or at “home”?
I’m flying in from the US in mid June. I’ll spend the first 3 days of my visit up in Scotland with my mother and then fly down to my in-laws in England on the 4th day, so I would need to take one test in Scotland and 1 test in England (on top of the test to release on the 5th day in England). I was hoping that the US would make the green list. I now need to cross my fingers for 3 whole weeks now. Also could the 8th day test also double as my US return test as I return to the US on day 11 of my trip? (assuming I take the 8th day test late in the afternoon to stay within 72hrs for my return departure time. The tests can be done at home or at a location performing them. Day 8 tests are mailed to the address a couple of days before which will be no good if you’ve hypothetically left on day 3 or 4. Your absence will be very difficult to explain should the Police decide to pay a home visit to check on you Also if your itinerary is on one single PNR it might be picked up on the API provided to border force and you’d be making a false declaration on your UK arrival PLF form. During last Fridays covid briefing which was about travel our head of the UKBF made no apology for checking 100% of all arrivals for 100% of their documentation and the ensuing increased processing time. And possible longer waits. |
Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 33236684)
Actually I think legally Reetmafreen can do what is suggested - albeit I am not sure that is an intended consequence of the law. They must remain in self isolation at the address in Scotland but are allowed to leave the address to depart Scotland prior to the end of the 10 day period, and they must continue the rest of the self isolation in England. I think you would also need to submit a new plf on the move in order to update the self isolation address.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2...9/regulation/6 Not sure if I missed the fact that you can change address of self isolation but picked up the fact that the day 5 test to release doesn’t seem to apply In Scotland. |
Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 33236684)
Actually I think legally Reetmafreen can do what is suggested - albeit I am not sure that is an intended consequence of the law. They must remain in self isolation at the address in Scotland but are allowed to leave the address to depart Scotland prior to the end of the 10 day period, and they must continue the rest of the self isolation in England. I think you would also need to submit a new plf on the move in order to update the self isolation address.
Hope for Reetmafreen's sake this is all a moot point because US is on the green list by then. |
Originally Posted by KeaneJohn
(Post 33237076)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ssi/2...9/regulation/6
Not sure if I missed the fact that you can change address of self isolation but picked up the fact that the day 5 test to release doesn’t seem to apply In Scotland. |
Originally Posted by mustafina
(Post 33237369)
Very happy to be corrected, but this seems like an interesting approach to infection control if it's allowed! Would the testing bureaucracy cope with a change of address half way through?
EDIT: although I agree it doesn't seem to be a sensible thing to do. |
Any more info about more Portugal flights? Haven't seen any increase in LIS, OPO or FNC - just FAO.
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Originally Posted by James91
(Post 33238276)
Any more info about more Portugal flights? Haven't seen any increase in LIS, OPO or FNC - just FAO.
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Originally Posted by Chris9642
(Post 33238286)
I think that’s because it’s a weekend - BA decision makers are Monday to Friday so doubt we will see any changes until tomorrow.
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