BA to trial IATA Travel Pass
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Exec Club, SIA KrisFlyer, Qantas FF, Emirates Skywards
Posts: 1,850
BA to trial IATA Travel Pass
As per ET's reporting, BA is going to trial the IATA Travel Pass:
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...id-travel-pass
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...id-travel-pass
#2
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lincoln, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Spire Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 1,266
This is good news. I hope governments around the world embrace it. For this, there has to be some security around preventing fake passes. The same people who come on here saying that they do not agree with imposed conditions may lie or cheat their way around having a pass before they are entitled to one. For this reason, I fear too many governments, particularly those who have had success in combating the outbreak, will simply stick to their own draconian systems far longer than is necessary.
#4
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,557
The problem is that competing health passports are being developed.
For example AA is using VeriFLY.
UA plan to use CommonPass (I think with LH, VS, CX and some others).
For example AA is using VeriFLY.
UA plan to use CommonPass (I think with LH, VS, CX and some others).
#5
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, Bonvoy Platinum, HH Diamond; others
Posts: 741
I wonder how this works for those who can't (currently) have the vaccine - e.g. I found out from relatives who have been vaccinated that the vaccines are not available for those with any history of allergic reactions or anaphylactic shocks - will these people be barred from travel?
#6
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
In order for this to work, it takes the collaboration of key affected governments. BA or any other carrier may choose to work with the IATA product, but it does no good if the work product does not meet the requirements of governments other than the UK. In particular, this may lead to establishing "air corridors" on key routes if there can be agreement. By way of example, LON-NYC is generally considered the most profitable route in the world. If the US & UK governments can agree to the specifics of what is a valid test, what form the report must take, and how it is presented, that would be a significant step and surely would lead to others joining in.
As noted above, the benefit would be that presuming adequate security measures coupled with sufficient penalties for criminals, the system could become effective fairly quickly.
As noted above, the benefit would be that presuming adequate security measures coupled with sufficient penalties for criminals, the system could become effective fairly quickly.
#7
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: UK
Programs: Mucci Chevalier de Actes Bénéfiques pour les Autres, BAEC Gold.
Posts: 1,486
https://airlines.iata.org/news/willi...s-iata-dg-role
#8
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Exec Club, SIA KrisFlyer, Qantas FF, Emirates Skywards
Posts: 1,850
In order for this to work, it takes the collaboration of key affected governments. BA or any other carrier may choose to work with the IATA product, but it does no good if the work product does not meet the requirements of governments other than the UK. In particular, this may lead to establishing "air corridors" on key routes if there can be agreement. By way of example, LON-NYC is generally considered the most profitable route in the world. If the US & UK governments can agree to the specifics of what is a valid test, what form the report must take, and how it is presented, that would be a significant step and surely would lead to others joining in.
As noted above, the benefit would be that presuming adequate security measures coupled with sufficient penalties for criminals, the system could become effective fairly quickly.
As noted above, the benefit would be that presuming adequate security measures coupled with sufficient penalties for criminals, the system could become effective fairly quickly.
#9
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
The devil is in the details. Everyone will say that this is all great. But, when it comes down to the font size of a test result, getting the UK & US governments to agree, let alone Canada and others, will hit a brick wall absent grownup oversight.
#10
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,021
I wonder how this works for those who can't (currently) have the vaccine - e.g. I found out from relatives who have been vaccinated that the vaccines are not available for those with any history of allergic reactions or anaphylactic shocks - will these people be barred from travel?
I have heard that those with previous bad reactions can have the AZ vaccine but not Pfizer; obviously be led by medical advice.
#11
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Washington, D.C.
Programs: BA Gold Lifetime, AA 2M, Delta 2M, Hilton Diamond, Hertz President's Club, EK Platinum
Posts: 948
Given in US, people are receiving vaccine cards... completely non-automated... how will these cards ever make their way into an automated system. Same is true for the great number of COVID testing companies.
#13
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,440
However, I am also in the CDC study of side effects after inoculation (V-Safe) which to me would be a perfect way to monitor those who have gotten vaccines and provide evidence of vaccination.
The trouble is that V-Safe has to follow HIPAA rules, which completely takes it out of the running for a vaccine passport
#14
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,436
Interesting. Surely the possible positive solution could be a ledger, so a type of crypto technology that can’t be tampered with and is verified.
#15
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Washington, D.C.
Programs: BA Gold Lifetime, AA 2M, Delta 2M, Hilton Diamond, Hertz President's Club, EK Platinum
Posts: 948
I have 100% certainty that the current vaccine card being used in the US... and probably other countries... can be easily fabricated. You can find copies on-line. Depending on these cards even as proof of vaccination is suspect.