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Old Jan 28, 2021, 4:23 am
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BA to trial IATA Travel Pass

As per ET's reporting, BA is going to trial the IATA Travel Pass:
https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...id-travel-pass
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 5:22 am
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This is good news. I hope governments around the world embrace it. For this, there has to be some security around preventing fake passes. The same people who come on here saying that they do not agree with imposed conditions may lie or cheat their way around having a pass before they are entitled to one. For this reason, I fear too many governments, particularly those who have had success in combating the outbreak, will simply stick to their own draconian systems far longer than is necessary.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 5:55 am
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I can’t say I’m surprised by the link, isn’t Willie chief at IATA now?
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 6:54 am
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The problem is that competing health passports are being developed.
For example AA is using VeriFLY.
UA plan to use CommonPass (I think with LH, VS, CX and some others).
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 7:02 am
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I wonder how this works for those who can't (currently) have the vaccine - e.g. I found out from relatives who have been vaccinated that the vaccines are not available for those with any history of allergic reactions or anaphylactic shocks - will these people be barred from travel?
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 7:02 am
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In order for this to work, it takes the collaboration of key affected governments. BA or any other carrier may choose to work with the IATA product, but it does no good if the work product does not meet the requirements of governments other than the UK. In particular, this may lead to establishing "air corridors" on key routes if there can be agreement. By way of example, LON-NYC is generally considered the most profitable route in the world. If the US & UK governments can agree to the specifics of what is a valid test, what form the report must take, and how it is presented, that would be a significant step and surely would lead to others joining in.

As noted above, the benefit would be that presuming adequate security measures coupled with sufficient penalties for criminals, the system could become effective fairly quickly.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by rockflyertalk
I can’t say I’m surprised by the link, isn’t Willie chief at IATA now?
He takes up the post of Director General in April 2021 according to last November's IATA press announcement:

https://airlines.iata.org/news/willi...s-iata-dg-role
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 7:30 am
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Originally Posted by Often1
In order for this to work, it takes the collaboration of key affected governments. BA or any other carrier may choose to work with the IATA product, but it does no good if the work product does not meet the requirements of governments other than the UK. In particular, this may lead to establishing "air corridors" on key routes if there can be agreement. By way of example, LON-NYC is generally considered the most profitable route in the world. If the US & UK governments can agree to the specifics of what is a valid test, what form the report must take, and how it is presented, that would be a significant step and surely would lead to others joining in.

As noted above, the benefit would be that presuming adequate security measures coupled with sufficient penalties for criminals, the system could become effective fairly quickly.
Yeh exactly - if governments are not onboard, this is useless. Does anyone think governments will jump onboard with this? It may really give the aviation industry something to cheer about.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 7:38 am
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Yeh exactly - if governments are not onboard, this is useless. Does anyone think governments will jump onboard with this? It may really give the aviation industry something to cheer about.
The devil is in the details. Everyone will say that this is all great. But, when it comes down to the font size of a test result, getting the UK & US governments to agree, let alone Canada and others, will hit a brick wall absent grownup oversight.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 9:36 am
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I wonder how this works for those who can't (currently) have the vaccine - e.g. I found out from relatives who have been vaccinated that the vaccines are not available for those with any history of allergic reactions or anaphylactic shocks - will these people be barred from travel?
It’s also not currently licensed for children.....
I have heard that those with previous bad reactions can have the AZ vaccine but not Pfizer; obviously be led by medical advice.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 12:50 pm
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Given in US, people are receiving vaccine cards... completely non-automated... how will these cards ever make their way into an automated system. Same is true for the great number of COVID testing companies.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 1:37 pm
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They will make it into an automated system once it is established and made uniform. Right now, all that is possible is an app which holds scanned docs and has zero security.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 4:27 pm
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Given in US, people are receiving vaccine cards... completely non-automated... how will these cards ever make their way into an automated system. Same is true for the great number of COVID testing companies.
My inoculation card is now in my travel wallet. It is a piece of paper that was filled out at the time I got both shots.

However, I am also in the CDC study of side effects after inoculation (V-Safe) which to me would be a perfect way to monitor those who have gotten vaccines and provide evidence of vaccination.

The trouble is that V-Safe has to follow HIPAA rules, which completely takes it out of the running for a vaccine passport
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 4:49 pm
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They will make it into an automated system once it is established and made uniform. Right now, all that is possible is an app which holds scanned docs and has zero security.
Interesting. Surely the possible positive solution could be a ledger, so a type of crypto technology that can’t be tampered with and is verified.
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Old Jan 28, 2021, 6:57 pm
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I have 100% certainty that the current vaccine card being used in the US... and probably other countries... can be easily fabricated. You can find copies on-line. Depending on these cards even as proof of vaccination is suspect.
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