BA15/16 [LHR-SIN-SYD] to be operated by 787-9 from Oct 2021
#17
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Isn’t SYD specifically not a part of the QR-BA JV? I thought that was one of the pre-conditions for it to be approved?
#18
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ExecTrav (AU)---->BA, Qatar alliance for Australian flights gets the go-ahead
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It will allow for BA and Qatar to co-ordinate on schedules, pricing, sales and marketing, capacity, frequent flyer programs and lounge access on routes "between four Australian cities and the UK/Europe (which) operate via Doha" – those cities currently being Canberra, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth.The northern hemisphere end of the alliance taps into over 100 destinations predominately in the UK, France, Germany and Spain.
Sydney is the sole exception, as the ACCC notes it is already served by both BA and Qatar Airways, with the Sydney-London route "highly contested... any attempt by the Parties to co-ordinate on the routes would be quickly defeated by the other airlines who offer services on the route, including Qantas, Emirates, Etihad, Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific."
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It will allow for BA and Qatar to co-ordinate on schedules, pricing, sales and marketing, capacity, frequent flyer programs and lounge access on routes "between four Australian cities and the UK/Europe (which) operate via Doha" – those cities currently being Canberra, Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth.The northern hemisphere end of the alliance taps into over 100 destinations predominately in the UK, France, Germany and Spain.
Sydney is the sole exception, as the ACCC notes it is already served by both BA and Qatar Airways, with the Sydney-London route "highly contested... any attempt by the Parties to co-ordinate on the routes would be quickly defeated by the other airlines who offer services on the route, including Qantas, Emirates, Etihad, Singapore Airlines and Cathay Pacific."
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#19
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Good, since I have never been keen on F on 777, much preferring F on 787, although I really do not care for those silly electrically controlled dimming on the 787 windows.
#21
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Yuk. Can't think of anything worse, certainly in an Economy window seat. 9 abreast with my shoulder jammed against the cabin wall. And, as noted above, forced window dimmed during the day.
Would suggest flying on the A380 to SIN and then transfer for the shorter hop...
QR and CX would be preferable to aviod the 787 if in Y.
I presume the 777 is being reassigned to plug a 747-sized gap somewhere. Bad enough loosing the queen, let alone a cascade effect of being stuck on vastly inferior metal (carbon fibre) on other routes.
BA need to get F on the A350 ASAP as this is really the only comfortable long haul twin left in the fleet... (or install 8 abreast in the 787, which is even less likely). Hopefully the 777-9 will be wider and more spacious.
Would suggest flying on the A380 to SIN and then transfer for the shorter hop...
QR and CX would be preferable to aviod the 787 if in Y.
I presume the 777 is being reassigned to plug a 747-sized gap somewhere. Bad enough loosing the queen, let alone a cascade effect of being stuck on vastly inferior metal (carbon fibre) on other routes.
BA need to get F on the A350 ASAP as this is really the only comfortable long haul twin left in the fleet... (or install 8 abreast in the 787, which is even less likely). Hopefully the 777-9 will be wider and more spacious.
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#24
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What would be more interesting is if the A350-1000 can be tweaked to do LHR-SYD nonstop. This is what QF was looking at, and if BA could pull it off post-COVID it could capture a big fraction of the very high and high yielding (F), J, and W passengers on this route. Though I doubt BA is this adventurous!
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#27
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On long haul being able to pickup/drop passengers at the intermediate/fuel/crew stop is worth while and probably needed.