COVID-19 BA Suspended Routes, Changes in The BA Network, Speculation & Discussion
Dear Folks,
As BAeuro suggested, I am opening this thread where we could list all destinations that are permanently suspended by BA, make speculations about future cancellable routes, discuss options about alternative routings to these destinations and more. So far we have these permanent and temporary suspensions on the BA network Terminated Routes Heathrow - Beirut Heathrow - Helsinki - Specific thread Heathrow - Leeds Bradford - Specific thread Heathrow - Moscow SVO - Specific thread Temporary Suspensions for a short while Heathrow - Buenos Aires ( until 1 Sep 2020 ) Temporary Suspensions for S20 Heathrow - Calgary Heathrow - Charleston - Specific thread Heathrow - Montpellier Heathrow - Podgorica Route Inaugural Delayed Heathrow - Portland ( to 2 Sep 2020 ) - Specific thread Also for long-haul route, speculations please refer to this thread where you could find information about the frequency reductions, the possibility wheater if a route would be operating at some point, etc...: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...er-2020-a.html |
Thanks ISTFlyer
I know we’ve both made route news threads before and it’s just better to have one main one instead of annoying people like me setting a new one up each time :p |
So I’ve just worked out, this coming winter there will only be 2 destinations with MidHaul A321s (DME & AMM).
DME is twice daily but both can easily be served by the same aircraft and AMM is daily. So they will only need 2 frames, is this a sustainable subfleet or time to say goodbye... |
Originally Posted by BAeuro
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So I’ve just worked out, this coming winter there will only be 2 destinations with MidHaul A321s (DME & AMM).
DME is twice daily but both can easily be served by the same aircraft and AMM is daily. So they will only need 2 frames, is this a sustainable subfleet or time to say goodbye... We had reports here in FlyerTalk that some BEY and some AMM flights had last minute aircraft changes from ex-BMI A321's to A321neo's. However, this might not be likely as we still have 787-9 service scheduled to DME next April. |
Originally Posted by ISTFlyer
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I'm not sure but they might have tried to phase out those mid-haul A321's.
We had reports here in FlyerTalk that some BEY and some AMM flights had last minute aircraft changes from ex-BMI A321's to A321neo's. However, this might not be likely as we still have 787-9 service scheduled to DME next April. |
There are a lot of daily flights being dropped and therefore quite a lot of free slots at LHR. I guess they will try and fit in some LGW routes like Bermuda/Antigua/Barbados so to compete with Virgin.
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Originally Posted by BAeuro
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There are a lot of daily flights being dropped and therefore quite a lot of free slots at LHR. I guess they will try and fit in some LGW routes like Bermuda/Antigua/Barbados so to compete with Virgin.
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One mid haul A321 flys to TLV as BA163/2 in the summer. It is restarting on the 1st of July. Will be interesting to see what they do with the other mid hauls. Maybe they can make TLV three times a day in the winter.
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From what I can see, Antalya has no cheaper fares for the rest of this year. They’re all in K class at the same price. Could this hint at it being removed?
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Originally Posted by BAeuro
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From what I can see, Antalya has no cheaper fares for the rest of this year. They’re all in K class at the same price. Could this hint at it being removed?
Our minister of Culture & Tourism is very confident that there would be many international tourists preferring to go on vacation to Antalya this summer. However, as you mentioned, it might also be BA who've zeroed out the cheaper fares as they might have seen LGW-Antalya not profitable for this summer. |
Interesting thread, what are people's thoughts on Milan MXP surviving? Would make sense to focus on LIN for a while perhaps.
In terms of Gatwick, I suspect we've seen the last JFK service for a long time, unlikely YYZ will come back either, looks like AMS has been dropped for the short term. From a conversation I had yesterday it also seems like the Glasgow and Edinburgh services from LGW will see cut backs, (the domestics from Gatwick have always been the 'loss making routes'), wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of summer seasonal short haul stuff not operate at all this year. Reckon Bordeaux is at risk as they had cut that one back this summer anyway, I agree with BAeuro that Antalya looks uncertain. I doubt if they'll continue FCO from Gatwick either, not with Vueling also operating that. |
Originally Posted by tiffwhat
(Post 32411315)
Interesting thread, what are people's thoughts on Milan MXP surviving? Would make sense to focus on LIN for a while perhaps.
In terms of Gatwick, I suspect we've seen the last JFK service for a long time, unlikely YYZ will come back either, looks like AMS has been dropped for the short term. From a conversation I had yesterday it also seems like the Glasgow and Edinburgh services from LGW will see cut backs, (the domestics from Gatwick have always been the 'loss making routes'), wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of summer seasonal short haul stuff not operate at all this year. Reckon Bordeaux is at risk as they had cut that one back this summer anyway, I agree with BAeuro that Antalya looks uncertain. I doubt if they'll continue FCO from Gatwick either, not with Vueling also operating that. As for Glasgow and Edinburgh to Gatwick, they were a hit with the connecting pax going to the Caribbean. If BA move a few of the Caribbean routes up to LHR to compete with Virgin, then the domestics at LGW will be stripped right back. You’re right about LGW-FCO, especially as BA only have 1 flight a day. Vueling can easily up their capacity on the route, a bit like what happened with BA axing LGW-BCN. Hopefully Bordeaux stays and it could be a good candidate for LHR. |
I also noticed that TAP are moving one daily Porto flight from LGW to LHR. I think BA would be wise to move that route to LHR, don’t forget it was launched from Heathrow back in 2014.
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Originally Posted by BAeuro
(Post 32411374)
I also noticed that TAP are moving one daily Porto flight from LGW to LHR. I think BA would be wise to move that route to LHR, don’t forget it was launched from Heathrow back in 2014.
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I reckon Bordeaux will be okay. They were selling K class for every flight from now til winter until last week when the other fares opened up. Managed to bag a good deal for a mid August weekend.
There’s still 2 flights on at least some Fridays, and daily throughout the year otherwise. Prices can get very expensive for summer weekends and around holiday times so I guess BA make a decent screw on this route. |
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