Originally Posted by opus99
(Post 35928706)
777X is about to receive TIA which gives the ticket for the last stage of certification so if there’s a slip, it will be minimal at this point
BA is due to receive the first 777X in 2026 |
Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
(Post 36087138)
I would be very surprised if this was true.
There are no long haul flight crew based at Gatwick so no training issues for them. Just a question of adding Gatwick to their rosters. As for cabin crew they would need training but no issue as Cabin crew can be licenced on more than one type. However, this is a very unlikely rumour as the current Gatwick routes need more capacity than than the 788s offer and their configuration is not ideal for the BA Gatwick routes. However, I am always ok about being wrong lol! BA 787s have been to Gatwick previously for maintenance at The Boeing Hangar. I’ll put my head above the parapet and stick by this one. Maybe it’s something to do with the BKK route? Still currently showing as a 777 but as we all know it can change. |
Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 36087235)
Boeing has said that TIA is expected "no earlier than" end of March. Another potential problem that I'm hearing is that the CAA might be severely understaffed for the task of certifying the plane. A lot of the work is to review/confirm what EASA is doing, but this is the first plane since Brexit and apparently people in BCA & BA are expecting delays. Still aiming for 2026, but not a certainty.
Boeing wake up please! |
Originally Posted by opus99
(Post 36087278)
Thanks for this update! Really appreciate you remembering my post! I’m sure there’ll be delays seems it won’t be anything like the previous one that moved the EIS by 2 years. But I’m assuming anywhere between 3-6 months delay, not ideal but at this point 3-6 months for the 777X is small fish.
Boeing wake up please! My opinion counts for nothing but I'd be very surprised if there's more than a 779 in BA's fleet by 2027. |
Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 36087283)
The other big hurdle is the industrialisation phase. Elon Musk doesn't get much love recently (and he's 100% responsible for it I hasten to add) but when he said that 'productionising is a lot harder than prototyping' he was absolutely right. I have exactly zero trust in Boeing delivering those birds on time, on schedule and on spec once they've gotten all the paperwork in order. They still can't churn out 787s at a decent rate and decent quality, and even the 737s are proving too hard for them.
My opinion counts for nothing but I'd be very surprised if there's more than a 779 in BA's fleet by 2027. The jet is on the way…the pace..well. But with Boeing, I’ve just come to expect nothing |
Originally Posted by Saladman
(Post 36087248)
Apologies, I did actually mean Cabin Crew and they are all long haul (no short haul). Yes it’s not a problem training them but it would have to be done which is a time commitment.
I’ll put my head above the parapet and stick by this one. Maybe it’s something to do with the BKK route? Still currently showing as a 777 but as we all know it can change. The only other remote possibility could be the introduction of new routes that warrant a 788 cabin. However, I will remain sceptical for the time being. |
Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
(Post 36087532)
Bangkok will be a relatively low yield route and will need the current Gatwick 777 cabins to make money. It is not a route that will need First Class or lots of J seats.
The only other remote possibility could be the introduction of new routes that warrant a 788 cabin. However, I will remain sceptical for the time being. |
Originally Posted by Confus
(Post 36087612)
The 788 has neither an F cabin nor a huge J one (31 in new CS config), but that aside I share your doubts that it will be introduced at LGW. They need a much bigger Y cabin than the 787 can provide to have any hope of profitability.
specific routes are planned. |
Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
(Post 36087532)
Bangkok will be a relatively low yield route and will need the current Gatwick 777 cabins to make money. It is not a route that will need First Class or lots of J seats.
The only other remote possibility could be the introduction of new routes that warrant a 788 cabin. However, I will remain sceptical for the time being. |
Originally Posted by IFlyPlanes
(Post 36086949)
From what else I have read on here, it seems that the plan has changed post-COVID and now they are to stay a little longer due to changes in demand.
However, it looks like purely the ex-bmi A319s (registrations G-DBCA-K) will be getting the new seats - which they desperately need, as the current seats are over 10 years old and not in a good state. |
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