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FlyerTalker39574 Jun 28, 2020 5:51 am


Originally Posted by mikeyfly (Post 32491098)

I like this pic with the B744 below, BA Boeing past and present.

TedToToe Jun 28, 2020 6:15 am

Just a thought, but now that she has finally arrived, is it worth closing this thread so that all future deliveries can be tracked in the usual thread?

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...tirements.html

mikeyfly Jun 28, 2020 6:16 am


Originally Posted by richardwft (Post 32491193)
I like this pic with the B744 below, BA Boeing past and present.

Concorde too in the third image :tu:

1Aturnleft Jun 28, 2020 7:56 am


Originally Posted by TedToToe (Post 32491220)
Just a thought, but now that she has finally arrived, is it worth closing this thread so that all future deliveries can be tracked in the usual thread?

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...tirements.html

Fine by me, I only posed the original whereabouts question because the above link was so clogged up with other fleet changes it was difficult to determine. Now the 787-10 is now confirmed in fleet, it makes perfect sense to go there.

Yellowbelly Jun 29, 2020 12:53 am

Now looking forward to photos of the First cabin on this 781

JFX1764 Jun 29, 2020 3:37 am


Originally Posted by Yellowbelly (Post 32492959)
Now looking forward to photos of the First cabin on this 781

Not too different from the First cabin on the 787-9

opus99 Jun 29, 2020 3:47 am


Originally Posted by Yellowbelly (Post 32492959)
Now looking forward to photos of the First cabin on this 781

it should be very similar to what’s on the -9. I’d like to see the club suite set up on this aircraft

onobond Jun 29, 2020 4:19 am


Originally Posted by Yellowbelly (Post 32492959)
Now looking forward to photos of the First cabin on this 781


Originally Posted by JFX1764 (Post 32493124)
Not too different from the First cabin on the 787-9

IIRC, it's the same seat, just minus the buddy seat

KARFA Jun 29, 2020 4:21 am

I think the IFE and handset for the F seat in the 787-10 is a bit better than on the 787-9?

13901 Jun 29, 2020 4:41 am


Originally Posted by onobond (Post 32493158)
IIRC, it's the same seat, just minus the buddy seat

There's no buddy seat on the 789 either. Or, rather, there is but there's the screen in the way.

gliderpilot Jun 29, 2020 4:44 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 32493159)
I think the IFE and handset for the F seat in the 787-10 is a bit better than on the 787-9?

Hopefully they have improved the material/design to reduce the wear along the edge of the shelf and also on the seat controls (so you can actually see what the icons are for the latter!). Wonder is there will be any other minor differences?


Originally Posted by onobond (Post 32493158)
IIRC, it's the same seat, just minus the buddy seat

The 787-9 seats also don't have a buddy seat. There are various design differences between the 787 ones and the rest, most notably the larger, fixed IFE screen at the expense of the buddy seat, but also a revised shelf/table design (creating space underneath the shelf - great for extra sleeping room).

onobond Jun 29, 2020 4:51 am


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 32493175)
There's no buddy seat on the 789 either. Or, rather, there is but there's the screen in the way.

Then it's really a good reason to 'enhance' it, no? :)

Boeing77W Jun 29, 2020 5:31 am


Originally Posted by KARFA (Post 32493159)
I think the IFE and handset for the F seat in the 787-10 is a bit better than on the 787-9?

Indeed it is, the IFE system is the same as that found on the A350, Panasonic eX3 series, so from what I've seen the controller in F is the same as that found on the Club Suite


Originally Posted by gliderpilot (Post 32493177)
Hopefully they have improved the material/design to reduce the wear along the edge of the shelf and also on the seat controls (so you can actually see what the icons are for the latter!). Wonder is there will be any other minor differences?

I was told some time ago that changes have been made to ensure that there's no repeat of the leather trim issue, not sure about the seat controls/icons. On that note, the retrofit of a fix for the damaged leather across the -8 and -9 fleet has been pushed back quite considerably due to COVID-19.

BWBriscoe Jun 29, 2020 6:56 am

Any idea when the 78X will be out on revenue service?

george77300 Jun 29, 2020 12:31 pm

G-ZBLB in CHS
 
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1a17f4c53.jpeg

Some pics on Twitter of the 2nd 787-10 pre delivery.

Here:


gliderpilot Jun 29, 2020 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by george77300 (Post 32494248)

Some pics on Twitter of the 2nd 787-10 pre delivery.

She’s looking super shiny!

shame no pics of inside the cabin.

BAeuro Jun 29, 2020 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by gliderpilot (Post 32494284)
She’s looking super shiny!

shame no pics of inside the cabin.

Only 2 at the moment.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...9a76ce4d7.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d221aabf4.jpeg

Boeing77W Jul 2, 2020 7:03 am

G-ZBLA is scheduled for a freighter service, BA193F, to DFW on Saturday 4 July. Looks like it'll be doing DFW freight flights for at least the next week or so.

rhysflies Jul 6, 2020 5:16 am

Just casually looked out of my window and saw G-ZBLA on the approach into Heathrow from Dallas. Bit of a coincidence but she looks great!

BAeuro Jul 9, 2020 11:53 am

Here’s some more interior shots of G-ZBLB that I saw on Twitter:


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...620c06a1f.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...dc88b3602.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bf1923f83.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...baf8dae4f.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ccb5ba3bb.jpeg

ISTFlyer Jul 9, 2020 11:57 am

Thank you BAeuro for the images.

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Isn't it strange that people claim that the 787-10 would not have crew bunks but the first three rows in the middle have locked overhead compartments rather than a locker that you could stow the baggage. I assume that area is a crew bunk like 787-8's.

13901 Jul 9, 2020 11:59 am

So, basically First is exactly the same as on the 789 (although I’d have loved not have a fisheye photo so to check whether the frayed edge solution had been implemented) whilst WT+ and WT are in the 777 Panasonic and 350 style. I can see a great lack of IFE boxes in some of those WT seats!

FlyerTalker39574 Jul 9, 2020 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by ISTFlyer (Post 32519819)
Thank you BAeuro for the images.

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Isn't it strange that people claim that the 787-10 would not have crew bunks but the first three rows in the middle have locked overhead compartments rather than a locker that you could stow the baggage. I assume that area is a crew bunk like 787-8's.

Cabin or Flight crew bunks?

13901 Jul 9, 2020 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by ISTFlyer (Post 32519819)
Thank you BAeuro for the images.

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Isn't it strange that people claim that the 787-10 would not have crew bunks but the first three rows in the middle have locked overhead compartments rather than a locker that you could stow the baggage. I assume that area is a crew bunk like 787-8's.

you mean the 2 rows of First?

The 78X has a flight crew rest area, but not cabin crew rest area at the back.

ISTFlyer Jul 9, 2020 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 32519837)
you mean the 2 rows of First?

Exactly, my bad.


Originally Posted by richardwft (Post 32519834)
Cabin or Flight crew bunks?

I was asking for cabin crew as some people were claiming that the BA 787-10 would not be able to complete the longer long-haul routes.


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 32519837)
The 78X has a flight crew rest area, but not cabin crew rest area at the back.

Thanks for this information.

gliderpilot Jul 9, 2020 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 32519827)
So, basically First is exactly the same as on the 789...

Allost but a few minor changes. They’ve modified the edge of the side table. The leather is now on a strip along the top rather than going a round the edge itself. Should be much more hard wearing hopefully. It’s not easiest to see in those pictures unfortunately.

mikeyfly Jul 9, 2020 12:16 pm

Absolutely should’ve put doors on the F seats!

george77300 Jul 9, 2020 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by ISTFlyer (Post 32519863)
Thanks for this information.

To further expand on the crew bunks:

All BAs longhaul fleet have flight crew bunks.

The 787-10 and the G-VIIx 772s don’t have cabin crew bunks so limits the routes of the 787-10 in BAs fleet to those done by the G-VIIx 772s. So no further than SEA/DFW and some Caribbean routes along with the Middle East, and shorter African routes.

The rest of the longhaul fleet have cabin crew rests so not limited by this.

13901 Jul 9, 2020 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by gliderpilot (Post 32519876)
Allost but a few minor changes. They’ve modified the edge of the side table. The leather is now on a strip along the top rather than going a round the edge itself. Should be much more hard wearing hopefully. It’s not easiest to see in those pictures unfortunately.

ah, great, at least that bit is sorted on the 78X. I remember the conversations with one of the cabin engineers when this first appeared... 2017 if memory serves me right. Let’s hope it eventually rolls out to the 789.

MFCC Jul 9, 2020 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by george77300 (Post 32519885)
To further expand on the crew bunks:

All BAs longhaul fleet have flight crew bunks.

The 787-10 and the G-VIIx 772s don’t have cabin crew bunks so limits the routes of the 787-10 in BAs fleet to those done by the G-VIIx 772s. So no further than SEA/DFW and some Caribbean routes along with the Middle East, and shorter African routes.

The rest of the longhaul fleet have cabin crew rests so not limited by this.

The -VIIx 777s don’t have flight crew bunks. Just ‘high comfort’ jumpseats and 3 WT seats blocked for crew use.

BAeuro Jul 9, 2020 1:07 pm

Does anyone else think it’s odd that the Speedmarque is at the back of the WTP cabin? That is usually positioned at the front of each cabin section.

revorgap Jul 9, 2020 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by BAeuro (Post 32520016)
Does anyone else think it’s odd that the Speedmarque is at the back of the WTP cabin? That is usually positioned at the front of each cabin section.

Could it be due to the shape of the front cabin divider? Might not fit?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b789b7269.jpeg

BAeuro Jul 9, 2020 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by revorgap (Post 32520129)
Could it be due to the shape of the front cabin divider? Might not fit?

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b789b7269.jpeg

Ah yes that must be the reason. I hadn’t seen a picture of the front divider. It’s a weird design to be honest, the way it is narrower at the top and gives a good view into CW. Of course that’s without the curtain.

Boeing77W Jul 9, 2020 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 32519891)
ah, great, at least that bit is sorted on the 78X. I remember the conversations with one of the cabin engineers when this first appeared... 2017 if memory serves me right. Let’s hope it eventually rolls out to the 789.

The fix for the leather trim for the 789 has been pushed back till 2021 at the earliest.

With regards to the missing cabin crew bunks, the 787-10 also lacks the galley space to provide a second hot meal service. Both of these reasons restrict the routes the aircraft will be used on.

islandadventurer Jul 9, 2020 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by BAeuro (Post 32520158)
Ah yes that must be the reason. I hadn’t seen a picture of the front divider. It’s a weird design to be honest, the way it is narrower at the top and gives a good view into CW. Of course that’s without the curtain.

Probably like that to allow crew to see the whole cabin for Take-off / Landing without needing one of those flip up windows. The closed curtain then gives privacy inflight -- at least no one in Club is staring backwards into WTP during take-off like with the old seat!

islandadventurer Jul 9, 2020 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by mikeyfly (Post 32519879)
Absolutely should’ve put doors on the F seats!

Don't think doors would fit given the relatively narrow cabin - they likely would have had to remove the 'in-seat wardrobe' to install a door. In all honestly the first cabin on the 787-9 / -10 is far more private than the Club Suite even without the low door and I'd rather have the additional storage in my seat area..

BrianDromey Jul 9, 2020 2:56 pm

the difference between FIRST and CLUB is usually not a lot. I think a different colour palette might have differentiated between them better. One looks like a continue of the other in those photos. Might be different in reality, of course. The soft product is different too. But small difference like the black window surrounds on the 777 and 747 make a big visual impact.


Originally Posted by islandadventurer (Post 32520204)
Probably like that to allow crew to see the whole cabin for Take-off / Landing without needing one of those flip up windows. The closed curtain then gives privacy inflight -- at least no one in Club is staring backwards into WTP during take-off like with the old seat!

True. The narrow part of the divider does seem to be inline with the outer edge of the overhead bin, so it looks quite neat, to my mind. Although the position of the divider makes it seem like those lockers are permanently out of use? I think the 777s have flip-down areas in the dividers to allow the bins to be opened?

FlyerTalker39574 Jul 10, 2020 3:05 am


Originally Posted by revorgap (Post 32520129)

The CW aisle looks very narrow in this pic, is it narrower than A350?

opus99 Jul 10, 2020 3:07 am


Originally Posted by richardwft (Post 32521195)
The CW aisle looks very narrow in this pic, is it narrower than A350?

definitely looks wider than the 350

aidy Jul 10, 2020 3:18 am


Originally Posted by richardwft (Post 32521195)
The CW aisle looks very narrow in this pic, is it narrower than A350?

I would expect so.

The a350 has a cabin width of 5.61m whereas the 781 is 5.49m.

If the seats are the same size it means 6cm less space on each aisle


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