BA to become all T5 at LHR from Sunday 29 March 2020
Mar 17, 2020, 7:50 am
#16
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There will be no return to 'normal' let alone over night.
Airlines will be looking very closely at their cost base and route networks and retrenching. If BA see a future without T3 because they can operate solely from T5 then they won't go back
It will be years before airlines - not just BA - start to operate anywhere near the same number of routes and frequencies it did at the start of the year.
Airlines will be looking very closely at their cost base and route networks and retrenching. If BA see a future without T3 because they can operate solely from T5 then they won't go back
It will be years before airlines - not just BA - start to operate anywhere near the same number of routes and frequencies it did at the start of the year.
Mar 17, 2020, 7:55 am
#17
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Aside from the worldwide human impact, this is all so incredibly surreal and sad. Life won't be the same again for a long long time, and I can't quite get my head around it yet.
Mar 17, 2020, 7:56 am
#18
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I hope I am apologising to you later in the year for being unduly pessimistic.
Mar 17, 2020, 8:12 am
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This. The economy is s shambles. Routes, frequencies, and aircraft which operated profitably may not ever recover and others to a fraction. I see commercial aviation as a bare bones operation going forward. I would be more concerned about a seat from A to B on an aircraft and less concerned about whether lounges, Krug, and hot towels are part of the future.
Mar 17, 2020, 8:30 am
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This. The economy is s shambles. Routes, frequencies, and aircraft which operated profitably may not ever recover and others to a fraction. I see commercial aviation as a bare bones operation going forward. I would be more concerned about a seat from A to B on an aircraft and less concerned about whether lounges, Krug, and hot towels are part of the future.
Mar 17, 2020, 8:50 am
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As long as this turns out to be a disease which you cannot get twice - and I accept that this is not 100% certain at present but is likely - then it should sort itself out.
What we need, and which bizarrely does not exist, is a test to show that you have antibodies to it. When this is available, two things happen. First, we can tell exactly how many people caught it and threw it off without even getting a headache (if we're lucky, the answer is a lot) and secondly we can give those people approval to go back to normal and start supporting others.
Massively off-topic now though!
What we need, and which bizarrely does not exist, is a test to show that you have antibodies to it. When this is available, two things happen. First, we can tell exactly how many people caught it and threw it off without even getting a headache (if we're lucky, the answer is a lot) and secondly we can give those people approval to go back to normal and start supporting others.
Massively off-topic now though!
Mar 17, 2020, 8:56 am
#22
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There will be no return to 'normal' let alone over night.
Airlines will be looking very closely at their cost base and route networks and retrenching. If BA see a future without T3 because they can operate solely from T5 then they won't go back
It will be years before airlines - not just BA - start to operate anywhere near the same number of routes and frequencies it did at the start of the year.
Airlines will be looking very closely at their cost base and route networks and retrenching. If BA see a future without T3 because they can operate solely from T5 then they won't go back
It will be years before airlines - not just BA - start to operate anywhere near the same number of routes and frequencies it did at the start of the year.
If a lot of routes will be cut I guess the BA network will start to shrink again and the days of BA flying to most business and leisure destinations will be over.
Anyone know when other routes will start to be dropped?
Mar 17, 2020, 8:57 am
#23
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We are a few weeks into what, potentially could be several months of disruption. When and if this goes away completely the airline business or what is left of it will be very different to that we have known up to now. June/July for a significant improvement is frankly naive.
I hope I am apologising to you later in the year for being unduly pessimistic.
I hope I am apologising to you later in the year for being unduly pessimistic.
Mar 17, 2020, 9:51 am
#24
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Sweetheart, we have to take each day as it comes. These things come, they vent their fury and then they weaken and die. One thing is sure. Our recent obsessions and angst over status and compensation are being eclipsed by what is practically a new plague. We are at war, said Mr Macron. I am sitting in my garden Ona beautifully warm and sunny afternoon and glad to hepave my husband, my health, his heath, a rather pleasant roof over my head, food in the table and gin. I couldn’t care less whether BA is in one terminal or another. It is so irrelevant to today’s problems. I’m just concerned about all the people who will soon be without jobs and the economic chaos that is going to hit. That matters. People matter.
Mar 17, 2020, 9:56 am
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Mar 17, 2020, 10:03 am
#26
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I doubt BA’s ops planning goes much beyond the weekend right now. Doubt they are worrying about May or June.
Post Sept 11th, some things came back quickly but it did take years rather than months, a things like security for example changed irrevocably.
Post Sept 11th, some things came back quickly but it did take years rather than months, a things like security for example changed irrevocably.
Mar 17, 2020, 10:49 am
#29
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As long as this turns out to be a disease which you cannot get twice - and I accept that this is not 100% certain at present but is likely - then it should sort itself out.
What we need, and which bizarrely does not exist, is a test to show that you have antibodies to it. When this is available, two things happen. First, we can tell exactly how many people caught it and threw it off without even getting a headache (if we're lucky, the answer is a lot) and secondly we can give those people approval to go back to normal and start supporting others.
Massively off-topic now though!
What we need, and which bizarrely does not exist, is a test to show that you have antibodies to it. When this is available, two things happen. First, we can tell exactly how many people caught it and threw it off without even getting a headache (if we're lucky, the answer is a lot) and secondly we can give those people approval to go back to normal and start supporting others.
Massively off-topic now though!
Mar 17, 2020, 11:08 am
#30
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So does mine from HEL-LHR this Friday but that ain't happening. Playing a game of chicken with BA to see if they'll cancel it before i have to take the voucher.