BA Bronze Useless?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: QF Gold
Posts: 21
BA Bronze Useless?
I've managed to qualify for BA Bronze again for the second time just flying economy - I can't help but feel that this tier is a bit useless, particularly compared to some other FF programmes.
Off the top of my head: In OW, CXMP Silver and QRPC Silver both offer lounge access when flying them, and QRPC offers 10kg extra baggage too. I think AA Ruby at least offers extra baggage on domestic fares. In Skyteam, DL/AF/KLM Silver gives extra baggage too.
I've only credited my flights to BA because I've been collecting Avios for a few years now but I can't help but feel that my years at bronze have been wasted by not crediting to CXMP or QRPC as I flew those two airlines quite a lot in the years that I made ruby.
Off the top of my head: In OW, CXMP Silver and QRPC Silver both offer lounge access when flying them, and QRPC offers 10kg extra baggage too. I think AA Ruby at least offers extra baggage on domestic fares. In Skyteam, DL/AF/KLM Silver gives extra baggage too.
I've only credited my flights to BA because I've been collecting Avios for a few years now but I can't help but feel that my years at bronze have been wasted by not crediting to CXMP or QRPC as I flew those two airlines quite a lot in the years that I made ruby.
#2
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,201
TBH, it is fairly useless although the extra miles come in handy for people flying on cheapest economy, limited seat selection and priority boarding are noticeable, and business class check in can be a lifesaver when running tight on time. That said, silver is a world away in terms of benefits and likely to be worth stretching for for anyone in the upper half of the bronze TPs.
The other question would be - would you have earned ruby or anything at all if crediting to another programme?
The other question would be - would you have earned ruby or anything at all if crediting to another programme?
#5
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 13,048
Free seat assignment 7 days out.
Group 3 boarding, which is particularly valuable when they simply call groups 1-3 all at once...
However if the OP thinks they would gain OWS from the same travel patterns, then they should be abandoning BAEC for the ffp that hands out OWS so easily...
Group 3 boarding, which is particularly valuable when they simply call groups 1-3 all at once...
However if the OP thinks they would gain OWS from the same travel patterns, then they should be abandoning BAEC for the ffp that hands out OWS so easily...
#6
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Ipswich
Posts: 7,543
Mr W makes bronze most years and for someone that doesn't do a lot of paid flying, I think the benefits are actually OK. The advance seating choice is good, as most Y pax don't pay for seats so there's usually decent choice at 7 days out. Priority boarding can be useful (although it's a bit of a lottery these days) too.
I must admit I haven't considered other OW schemes for him. If they offer lounge access at that level then maybe he should credit there. I'll check that out.
I must admit I haven't considered other OW schemes for him. If they offer lounge access at that level then maybe he should credit there. I'll check that out.
#7
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: QF Gold
Posts: 21
Yeah, that's absolutely true - I did forget about the 7 days seat selection: that is very useful. That said, I think every other programme has that (or something similar too). I think I probably would've been able to qualify for CXMP and QRPC if I credited there instead.
I guess I'm whinging about the fact that a lot of FFPs are starting to make the Ruby level a bit more half way between nothing and Sapphire, similar to what they did with the Sapphire tier a few years ago (e.g. give Sapphires extra baggage, which was only for emeralds back then).
I guess I'm whinging about the fact that a lot of FFPs are starting to make the Ruby level a bit more half way between nothing and Sapphire, similar to what they did with the Sapphire tier a few years ago (e.g. give Sapphires extra baggage, which was only for emeralds back then).
#8
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: GLA
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 2,963
Considering you can reach bronze with one BA Holiday flying CE from GLA to Greece and 2 ~£60 one way upgrades to London, free seat selection a week out, group 3 boarding and business class check in seems a pretty fair return.
#10
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OW Emerald
Posts: 753
On the upside, if you add in a couple of Club Europe return flights, you could get to Silver. Whether or not it's worth it is up to you but with long haul economy, the avios bonus does add up!
#11
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Programs: IC Hotels Spire, BA Gold
Posts: 8,668
I think stating it is useless is a bit OTT. I was Bronze for a year about 4 years ago (from 10 years previous as a lowly Blue) I really, REALLY valued the free seat selection from 7 days out (usually bagging a SH exit seat every time) and the Business Class check-in facility.
Believe me, when you arrive at an outstation to check your bag in and you see the standard queue being some 40-50 plus pax long but only 4-5 pax in the Business Class line you really appreciate the Bronze level
Agreed though, Silver is the really valuable first level tier because of the lounge access. Having been Gold for 2 years now, personally I don't see too much difference between Gold and Silver - it is the difference between Bronze and Silver that is the valuable big step IMHO.
Believe me, when you arrive at an outstation to check your bag in and you see the standard queue being some 40-50 plus pax long but only 4-5 pax in the Business Class line you really appreciate the Bronze level
Agreed though, Silver is the really valuable first level tier because of the lounge access. Having been Gold for 2 years now, personally I don't see too much difference between Gold and Silver - it is the difference between Bronze and Silver that is the valuable big step IMHO.
#12
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,807
Mrs Wilsnunn has been bronze for the past few years and whilst she does get frustrated with how little she gets compared to me with Silver (she would especially like additional baggage allowance), she really appreciates the business class check in as when travelling on a larger flight such as an A380, there are so many people queueing for check in.
She doesn’t get much benefit from the seven day advance seat selection as she travels on other OneWorld carriers more than BA when by herself and BA when she is with me.
She indirectly feels the benefits of the 25% extra avios as I get to upgrade her or out her on more RFS flights than she would otherwise!
This year she will be close to Silver so trying to persuade her to do a TP run.
She doesn’t get much benefit from the seven day advance seat selection as she travels on other OneWorld carriers more than BA when by herself and BA when she is with me.
She indirectly feels the benefits of the 25% extra avios as I get to upgrade her or out her on more RFS flights than she would otherwise!
This year she will be close to Silver so trying to persuade her to do a TP run.
#13
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: GLA
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 2,963
#14
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BA Gold, *A Gold, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 241
I think stating it is useless is a bit OTT. I was Bronze for a year about 4 years ago (from 10 years previous as a lowly Blue) I really, REALLY valued the free seat selection from 7 days out (usually bagging a SH exit seat every time) and the Business Class check-in facility.
Believe me, when you arrive at an outstation to check your bag in and you see the standard queue being some 40-50 plus pax long but only 4-5 pax in the Business Class line you really appreciate the Bronze level
Agreed though, Silver is the really valuable first level tier because of the lounge access. Having been Gold for 2 years now, personally I don't see too much difference between Gold and Silver - it is the difference between Bronze and Silver that is the valuable big step IMHO.
Believe me, when you arrive at an outstation to check your bag in and you see the standard queue being some 40-50 plus pax long but only 4-5 pax in the Business Class line you really appreciate the Bronze level
Agreed though, Silver is the really valuable first level tier because of the lounge access. Having been Gold for 2 years now, personally I don't see too much difference between Gold and Silver - it is the difference between Bronze and Silver that is the valuable big step IMHO.
#15
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Cambridge, UK
Programs: Mucci, BA GGL/CCR
Posts: 761
I'm not sure how much more could reasonably be offered to BA Bronze. I thought it was a slightly odd tier when it was introduced given how much one gets for Silver and how, relatively speaking, easy it is to obtain.