MAN to ORD could be on again
Nov 11, 2019, 7:05 pm
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MAN to ORD could be on again
Wife caught her latest flight back from ORD to MAN via LHR yesterday and was told by a flight attendant that her days of having to change flights in London may soon be over - he claimed that BA is about to reintroduce (or should that be introduce since it was AA who operated that flight) the direct ORD - MAN service due to high demand.
Fingers crossed....
Fingers crossed....
Nov 11, 2019, 9:17 pm
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Would be good if it happens but over the 30 or so years I've flown TATL from MAN there have been so many rumours about direct services that simply haven't materialised. In fact the real story has been of failed and withdrawn Oneworld options which have gradually decreased to a single AA flight a day to PHL. As a result, I'm not crossing my fingers nor holding my breath on the basis of a casual comment from a random Flight Attendant.
Nov 11, 2019, 9:48 pm
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There was also a crewmour about 1/2 years ago that BA would resume MAN-JFK when AA gave up on that route. Didn’t happen of course. I don’t mean to be negative but my point is these types of rumours have been seen before and nothing has come to pass in the end, so I won’t be holding my breath on this one 
Nov 12, 2019, 1:23 am
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Wife caught her latest flight back from ORD to MAN via LHR yesterday and was told by a flight attendant that her days of having to change flights in London may soon be over - he claimed that BA is about to reintroduce (or should that be introduce since it was AA who operated that flight) the direct ORD - MAN service due to high demand.
Fingers crossed....
Fingers crossed....
I guess that's the next question, if its BA metal, what metal......
Nov 12, 2019, 2:10 am
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Another flying pig. BA has proved time and time again it has no interest in services from MAN, other than LHR and some weekend work for the LCY aircraft.
Nov 12, 2019, 3:02 am
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Assuming that the expected ROIC is = or > than the ROIC of a LHR route, where would BA find the frame to fly it? They’re already low as they are.
One key development of the last few years in European aviation, together with consolidation, is the end of multi-base operations. With the exception of LCCs no major do them, and with reason: there’s no money to be had in them.
One key development of the last few years in European aviation, together with consolidation, is the end of multi-base operations. With the exception of LCCs no major do them, and with reason: there’s no money to be had in them.
Nov 12, 2019, 4:59 am
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Assuming that the expected ROIC is = or > than the ROIC of a LHR route, where would BA find the frame to fly it? They’re already low as they are.
One key development of the last few years in European aviation, together with consolidation, is the end of multi-base operations. With the exception of LCCs no major do them, and with reason: there’s no money to be had in them.
One key development of the last few years in European aviation, together with consolidation, is the end of multi-base operations. With the exception of LCCs no major do them, and with reason: there’s no money to be had in them.
Nov 12, 2019, 5:09 am
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Nov 12, 2019, 5:27 am
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Much of the traffic heading East has been ceded to the ME3 (although with QR/AY they maintain a very small stake in the game) and it appears that they are willing to concede the westbound to VS/DL. As a shareholder I support the LHR/MAD (and DUB) hubbing strategy but with more capacity being added in by competitors from smaller airports the danger is that the connecting traffic continues to reduce and go elsewhere. Rumours persist of QR for example looking to base some 321LRs in the UK to cream off traffic from secondary points. Given how they reacted to DY ex LGW I am surprised to see IAG just ignoring this market.
Nov 12, 2019, 6:13 am
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Hello, Flying Pig here. I tend to agree though although I am surprised that IAG have not used the Thomas Cook opportunity to push back against Virgin ex MAN.
Much of the traffic heading East has been ceded to the ME3 (although with QR/AY they maintain a very small stake in the game) and it appears that they are willing to concede the westbound to VS/DL. As a shareholder I support the LHR/MAD (and DUB) hubbing strategy but with more capacity being added in by competitors from smaller airports the danger is that the connecting traffic continues to reduce and go elsewhere. Rumours persist of QR for example looking to base some 321LRs in the UK to cream off traffic from secondary points. Given how they reacted to DY ex LGW I am surprised to see IAG just ignoring this market.
Much of the traffic heading East has been ceded to the ME3 (although with QR/AY they maintain a very small stake in the game) and it appears that they are willing to concede the westbound to VS/DL. As a shareholder I support the LHR/MAD (and DUB) hubbing strategy but with more capacity being added in by competitors from smaller airports the danger is that the connecting traffic continues to reduce and go elsewhere. Rumours persist of QR for example looking to base some 321LRs in the UK to cream off traffic from secondary points. Given how they reacted to DY ex LGW I am surprised to see IAG just ignoring this market.